- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:39:15 -0500
- To: ext Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
- CC: WAI Liaison <wai-liaison@w3.org>, public-webevents@w3.org
On 2/28/13 4:32 PM, ext Michael Cooper wrote: > Hi Art - it's hard to get a response back from the PFWG this week > because the majority of our participants are at an accessibility > conference. I think your proposed text looks good, but am not sure > what URI we would prefer for the resource. Probably we would either > want something in the PF wiki, i.e., some page under > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/, or some static page somewhere, maybe > in datespace, maybe not. I'd like to run that part of the question > past the group. > > I expect to be able to discuss this with the PFWG next week. Will it > work for you to proceed on the basis of the PFWG general acceptance, > and get the final URI to you mid next week to stick in the document? > If that still holds you back, I'll make an executive decision and just > suggest one. Yes, that all sounds reasonable to me. Thanks for your quick reply. -Art > > Michael > > Arthur Barstow wrote: >> Hi Michael, PFWG, >> >> We now have sufficient implementations for this spec to advance to >> Proposed Recommendation [ImplReport]. As such, to prevent your >> comment from blocking our PR, we would like to get closure on your >> comment as soon as possible (our LC comment tracking document is >> [LC-Comments]). >> >> I propose adding the following text as the last paragraph in section >> 1 of the spec: >> >> [[ >> The Protocols and Formats Working Group created a non-normative >> document that includes a mapping of hardware events (e.g. keyboard >> events) to touch events. For more information see [@TBD]. >> ]] >> >> Please feel free to supply your own text rather than the above. >> >> We can use something in WebEvents' URL space (e.g. >> <http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/Mapping>) as the URL for the >> reference or we will use whatever URL you give us. >> >> When can we expect you to either accept our text or for you to supply >> your text? >> >> -Thanks, ArtB >> >> [ImplReport] <http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TEv1ImplReport> >> [LC-Comments] >> <http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-24-Jan-2013> >> >> >> On 2/15/13 9:15 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> Given the information you want to add is non-normative, I prefer >>> your suggestion the Web Events spec include a link to this >>> additional information, especially since that will facilitate the >>> evolution of the information (without having to change the Web >>> Events spec). >>> >>> How about I can create a wiki document under WebEvents' wiki <>? If >>> you don't like that idea, then we can use whatever you prefer. >>> >>> Also, can you please give us a rough estimate on when you expect to >>> have information available? >>> >>> (After we see your information, we can work together to determine >>> how the Web Events should link to it e.g. which section.) >>> >>> -Thanks, Art >>> >>> >>> On 2/13/13 12:17 PM, ext Michael Cooper wrote: >>>> The Protocols and Formats Working Group has reviewed Touch Events >>>> 1.0 Working Draft of 24 January 2013 >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-touch-events-20130124/ for >>>> accessibility issues. The finding of the group is that the events >>>> don't inherently impact accessibility in any particular way, but >>>> they do define a certain class of input events (touch) that not all >>>> users may be able to use. We do not think it is in scope of the Web >>>> Events Working Group to address this directly. However, we would >>>> like to request that informative content be added to alert >>>> implementers and suggest actions they may take. In this comment we >>>> outline the general structure of this content; if you accept the >>>> proposal in principle, we can work with you on a reasonable >>>> timeline to prepare the specific content. We are sending it in this >>>> manner in order to make sure to log the comment by the due date, >>>> which would not be possible if we take time to develop the complete >>>> proposal first. >>>> >>>> The issue of events of one type not being available for all users >>>> is already widespread with mouse events. For many years now, user >>>> agents have provided a workaround of sorts. Applications listen for >>>> the "click" event in order to actuate the user interface. As long >>>> as the control is focusable, keyboard users can navigate to the >>>> control and press the Enter key. The user agent actually generates >>>> a click event in response to this key action, so the web >>>> application requires no special coding to handle keyboard users, >>>> and accessibility of the application is maintained. >>>> >>>> The PFWG believes this type of solution could be applied to Touch >>>> events as well. The proposal is to provide a table that maps other >>>> hardware events (particularly keyboard events, but possibly others) >>>> to Touch events. User agents that implement this mapping would fire >>>> the appropriate Touch event whenever the other hardware event was >>>> received. This would provide transparent accessibility support for >>>> web applications. >>>> >>>> The proposal is that this be *informative* content only, perhaps in >>>> an appendix or other location of your choice. User agents would not >>>> be required to implement this mapping, and the timeline of >>>> progression to Recommendation should not be affected. The >>>> accessibility community would separately advocate with user agent >>>> developers that these mappings be implemented. >>>> >>>> The specific mapping suggestions require further exploration. Not >>>> all Touch events would have a corollary on other input types. But >>>> it should be possible to come up with a small set of mappings that >>>> allows the majority of applications that use Touch Events to be >>>> accessible without special coding. >>>> >>>> For the PFWG, >>>> Michael Cooper >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Michael Cooper >>>> Web Accessibility Specialist >>>> World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative >>>> E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org> >>>> Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > > Michael Cooper > Web Accessibility Specialist > World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative > E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org> > Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/> >
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