- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:02:41 -0500
- To: "public-webevents@w3.org" <public-webevents@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the December 13 voice conference are available at
the following and copied below:
http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html
WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send
them to the public-webevents mail list before December 20. In the
absence of any changes, these minutes will be considered approved.
-AB
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Web Events WG Voice Conference
13 Dec 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0149.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-irc
Attendees
Present
Art_Barstow, Cathy_Chan, Suman_Sharma, Doug_Schepers,
Olli_Pettay
Regrets
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Tweak Agenda
2. [6]Announcements
3. [7]Status of Patent Advisory Group re Apple's patent
disclosures for Touch Events v1 spec
4. [8]Charter update
5. [9]Testing TEv1 spec
6. [10]AoB
* [11]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB
<scribe> Scribe: Art
Date: 13 December 2011
<smaug> do we have a call?
Tweak Agenda
<smaug> calls in
AB: I published a Draft agenda yesterday
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0149.html. Any change requests? One addition I propose is an AoB
topic at the end of the meeting.
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0149.html.
Announcements
AB: one announcement is that the Candidate Recommendation for the
Touch Events v1 spec should be published on December 15.
... any other short announcements?
Status of Patent Advisory Group re Apple's patent disclosures for Touch
Events v1 spec
AB: I don't have any new information to share on the next steps re
Apple's patent disclosures
[13]http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status#current-disclosur
es beyond what PLH reported last month
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0142.html.
... My interpretation of the Patent Policy is a Patent Advisory
Group will be started but I haven't seen anything from the W3C Staff
regarding the impending PAG.
... Doug do you have any new information on this?
[13] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status#current-disclosures
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0142.html.
DS: I think we will be starting a PAG
… but not likely to start until the beginning of next year
AB: I want to repeat that we will *NOT* directly discuss any of the
patents or patent applications in this WG
Charter update
AB: three things here. First, the CfC to add Mouse/Pointer Lock and
Gamepad APIs to WebApps' charter and not WebEvents' charter
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0135.html ended.
... there were no objections to that proposal so the means those two
APIs will be included in the charter the AC will review.
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0135.html
… that is the AC review of the WebApps' charter
AB: second, this means WebEvents will *not* have to revise its
charter.
... third, FYI, the latest Draft proposal for Indie UI WG (fka
Intentional Events WG)
[16]http://www.w3.org/2011/11/indie-ui-charter
[16] http://www.w3.org/2011/11/indie-ui-charter
SS: is this a new WG?
DS: yes, that's correct
AB: and the idea is that what we have previously called the
"Intentional Events" spec, will be a joint spec for WebEvents and
this new Indie UI WG
Testing TEv1 spec
AB: we have a few sub-topics here ...
... re directory organization: for consistency with WebApps and HTML
WGs,
should the directory structure be changed as indicated in the draft
agenda
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/
0149.html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0149.html
<smaug> looks ok to me
AB: I don't feel strongly about that structure so I welcome comments
... any objections to changing our structure?
… to align with WebApps and HTML WG's structure for tests?
… I could start a CfC on the structure question?
DS: I think that is appropriate
AB: we don't have Matt here so I want his feedback
<scribe> ACTION: barstow start a CfC re directory structure for
WebEvents tests [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Start a CfC re directory structure
for WebEvents tests [on Arthur Barstow - due 2011-12-20].
AB: before we talk about specific actions, let me ask if anyone has
analyzed the tests we have vis-a-vis the minimum needed to exit CR?
… I'm trying to get a sense of the level of "doneness" we have WRT
the current set of tests
… Does anyone know, roughly?
[ Silence ]
DS: no, I don't
AB: is this an important question
DS: if the testable assertions were marked, this could be easier to
assess
… we need to talk to the people writing tests
… but without them on the call, it's difficult to determine
AB: yes, I agree with all of the things you said
… Is anyone willing to do create some type of assertion table?
… That is enumerate the testable assertions?
… I think we are going to need something like that
… Any volunteers?
CC: I can take a look at that
<scribe> ACTION: cathy Create a first iteration of an Assertion
Table for the Touch Events v1 spec [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Create a first iteration of an
Assertion Table for the Touch Events v1 spec [on Cathy Chan - due
2011-12-20].
AB: thanks Cathy!
CC: just to be clear, I'm willing to start but can't commit to
completing it
AB: Action-74 on Olli Pettay "Create some multitouch test cases"
[20]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/74
[20] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/74
<smaug>
[21]http://w3c.pettay.fi/webevents/tests/touchevents/multi-touch.htm
l
[21] http://w3c.pettay.fi/webevents/tests/touchevents/multi-touch.html
OP: I created it awhile ago
… need someone to move it into Hg
AB: does that use testharness?
OP: yes it does
<smaug> [22]http://w3c.pettay.fi/webevents/tests/
[22] http://w3c.pettay.fi/webevents/tests/
OP: I copied the single touch and modified it for multi-touch
… The idea was that I would start the multi-touch and then others
could add
AB: yes, that matches my understanding
... Action-66 on Dzung Tran "Create multitouch test cases for the
Touch Events spec"
<[23]http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/66>
[23] http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/66%3E
… and Tran was waiting for Olli's Action-74
… which we can consider complete, once the test is copied to Hg
<scribe> ACTION: barstow Copy Olli's mult-touch.html file to Hg
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Copy Olli's mult-touch.html file to
Hg [on Arthur Barstow - due 2011-12-20].
AB: anything else on testing for today?
[ No ]
AoB
AB: let's tentatively plan a call for next week and I'll send an
e-mail if it is canceled
... there will be no call December 27 nor on January 3
... in case there is no call next week, I just want to say that
working with you folks on this spec has been a real pleasure,
perhaps the most enjoyable part of my "day job" this year.
... Thanks very much for all of your hard work! Enjoy the upcoming
holidays and see you next year!
... any other business for today?
DS: I concur with Art re this group
… very professional
… and everyone has stepped up
OP: thanks Art for being the Scribe
AB: my pleasure
... Meeting Adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: barstow Copy Olli's mult-touch.html file to Hg
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: barstow start a CfC re directory structure for
WebEvents tests [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: cathy Create a first iteration of an Assertion Table
for the Touch Events v1 spec [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2011/12/13-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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