Re: Web components survey

Thank you both! I like the changes, particularly the increased hit boxes
for the radios. Also, I really like the randomized order per-view, since
that should eliminate "first in the list" bias, where people get tired
before they get to the end of the list.

LGTM.

Thanks,
Mason


On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 2:13 AM Schalk Neethling <sneethling@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Ruth! I added some custom CSS to increase the hit area for the
> radio buttons and hide the progress indicator.
> https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7243449/MDN-Web-Components-Short-Survey
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 11:07 AM Ruth John <rjohn@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone - and thanks for the changes Schalk!
>>
>> I've modified Custom SVG elements to Custom SVG/MathML elements as per
>> the discussion.
>>
>> The list is randomly ordered for each view. Another option is I can turn
>> this off and group like items in the list to make it a bit more cohesive.
>>
>> We're just looking into hiding the progress at the bottom. Whilst I
>> generally agree with progress indicators on surveys, it is redundant here
>> and so I think misleading.
>>
>> ---
>> Ruth John
>> MDN Content
>> Mozilla Corporation
>> rjohn@mozilla.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 8:58 PM Schalk Neethling <sneethling@mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Lea,
>>>
>>> I had a look at the feedback on the PR. Most relate to the survey form,
>>> which is handled in Alchemer.
>>> You can see a live preview of this here:
>>> https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7243449/MDN-Web-Components-Short-Survey
>>> I hope that helps, as we do not have a live preview for the PR.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:53 PM Schalk Neethling <
>>> sneethling@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I have not looked at everything, but
>>>> I wanted to answer these from Mason quickly:
>>>>
>>>> >  - The order of the items is random. Is it *randomized*, i.e.
>>>> different for each survey taker? (That would be good, if so.)
>>>> >  - The hit boxes for the radio buttons are small, which slows down
>>>> the survey if you're using a mouse. I don't know if this is fixable given
>>>> the infrastructure, but it'd be nice to do if possible.
>>>> > - The 0-100% indicator stays at 0% even as you move to question 2.
>>>> Since it's a one-screen survey, maybe that indicator isn't needed?
>>>>
>>>> On the first one. Ruth might have set it to randomize. I will
>>>> double-check. As you liked the idea of having it randomized, I will leave
>>>> it randomized if that is the case. The second and third are constraints of
>>>> the tool we use. With that said, for the second one, I believe I can add a
>>>> bit of custom CSS to the form inside Alchemer. I've attached a screenshot
>>>> showing the larger hit-area. I also set the cursor to pointer so it is
>>>> easier to see when your cursor enters the hit-area. Let me know your
>>>> thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM Lea Verou <lea@verou.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just left a few comments in the PR as well :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Lea
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Lea Verou*
>>>>> 👩🏽 (she/her)
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 13:04, Mason Freed <masonfreed@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Brian, I replied to your comment on the thread. TL;DR I do
>>>>> think we should modify the SVG item to "Custom SVG/MathML elements", but I
>>>>> don't think we should add a ton of detail to each item.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ruth for setting up the survey. Generally it looks good to me.
>>>>> I have a few comments, many of which might be "working as intended":
>>>>>  - The order of the items is random. Is it *randomized*, i.e.
>>>>> different for each survey taker? (That would be good, if so.)
>>>>>  - The hit boxes for the radio buttons are small, which slows down the
>>>>> survey if you're using a mouse. I don't know if this is fixable given the
>>>>> infrastructure, but it'd be nice to do if possible.
>>>>>  - The 0-100% indicator stays at 0% even as you move to question 2.
>>>>> Since it's a one-screen survey, maybe that indicator isn't needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I'm ok as-is, if all of these are just for the preview, or not
>>>>> changeable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:47 AM Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not specifically asking to hit the brakes here or anything, but I
>>>>>> left some comments on
>>>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-dx/developer-research/issues/13 which
>>>>>> this is based on I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:30 PM Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +Mason Freed <masonfreed@google.com> can you give it a spin and see
>>>>>>> if it all looks right to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:05 PM Kadir Topal <kadirtopal@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Ruth! That looks good to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Kadir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:19 PM Ruth John <rjohn@mozilla.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've set up the web components survey ready to go - there's some
>>>>>>>>> previews in the pr here https://github.com/mdn/yari/pull/8466
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can also check out the survey here
>>>>>>>>> https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7243449/MDN-Web-Components-Short-Survey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions for
>>>>>>>>> modifications - I'd ideally like to get this live on Monday (running for a
>>>>>>>>> week), displaying for 5% of users within the MDN web/ section.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Ruth John
>>>>>>>>> MDN Content
>>>>>>>>> Mozilla Corporation
>>>>>>>>> rjohn@mozilla.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Brian Kardell :: @briankardell :: bkardell.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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