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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25839 --- Comment #52 from Trevor Perrin <webcrypto@trevp.net> --- (In reply to Ryan Sleevi from comment #51) > (In reply to Trevor Perrin from comment #50) > > The "raw" definitions would be straightforward, as the Curve25519 and > > Ed25519 papers specify exact encodings for keys and signatures. > > Though I don't agree with that, it's something better discussed when > reviewing a spec you wrote, rather than on this bug. > > > > Of the multiple Curve25519 implementations, very few that I'm aware of try > > > to actually interoperate with eachother, or with any other protocol. > > > > I've talked to some developers of these libraries who indeed have performed > > interop tests. The DJB specs are very clear, and the formats are very > > simple. I'd be surprised if any serious implementations of Curve25519 ECDH > > and Ed25519 signatures failed to interoperate. > > Though I don't agree with this either, it's something better discussed when > reviewing a spec you wrote, rather than on this bug. > > > That speaks to the quality of these implementations, it doesn't imply > > interop problems. > > If the only way to interop is to read source, that is an interop problem. > If the only way to interop is to use one of the canonical sources, that too > is an interop problem (c.f. WebSQL) That's not the case - the DJB papers on Curve25519 and Ed25519 specify byte-level detail. But I appreciate this would be better discussed via a full proposal. > While I appreciate the enthusiasm, it may be worth re-reading that paper. It > doesn't (at least as far as I recall and found) specify how to deal with > octet strings. That is, the algorithms are defined in terms of integers, but > the format conversions are left ambiguous. Byte-level encodings for public keys and signatures are on pages 6 and 7: http://ed25519.cr.yp.to/ed25519-20110926.pdf They could be more prominent, but they're there (search for "encoding"). > Specifically, if you only support "raw", then you cannot "securely" (a term > I use based on other members' recorded views) support unwrapping of > Curve25519 keys. That is, the 'sender' can control extractability by setting > the JWK "ext" attribute prior to wrapping, then wrap the key. The recipient > is documented as respecting the "ext" attribute independent of the content > script's parameters to unwrapKey. I see. I didn't realize JWK was the privileged format for wrap / unwrap. > The point being that, as a WG, we'll "consider" all submissions. But the > choice or absence of some features will have an affect on whether or not the > WG adopts it as a WG item, and whether or not the WG is able to progress on > this. > > > Is there an example template for producing add-on algorithm documents? Are > > any spec editors or other people willing to help, as I'm new here? > > No example templates. New territory being charted here. OK, I'll see what I can do. Could take a few weeks, if anyone wants to help let me know. Trevor -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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