Re: Response to WebCGM 2.1 Last Call comment

Lofton,

Great this response closes our Last Call review.

I have updated the Disposition of comments
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2008/WebCGM21-LC-comments.html

It is now ready for the Transition Call.


Thierry


Innovimax SARL wrote:
> Dear Thierry,
> 
> This is simply... perfect !
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mohamed
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>> Dear Mohamed,
>>
>> Thank you for your response.
>>
>> The WebCGM Working Group acknowledges that you are satisfied with our
>> resolution about your first comment regarding the XML Schema or Relax NG.
>>
>> Regarding your second comment "interaction between WebCGM and CSS"
>> you have requested in your last email, "to consider adding an
>> informative note on that work in the spec (with one or two sentence along)".
>>
>> The WebCGM Working Group had fulfilled your request and has added an
>> informative note regarding CSS.
>> This note is incorporated into the WebCGM 2.1 CR version and is available at
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/drafts/current-editor-21/WebCGM21-Concepts.html#DOM-scope
>>
>> See paragraphs 3-4, as well as the new linked non-normative reference to
>> "Stylable CGM" in 1.3.
>>
>>
>> Please reply and let us know whether you accept the WG
>> response or not.
>>
>> This issue is our last before requesting CR transition to the Director.
>> Please reply ASAP, in order to not delay our publication track.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Thierry Michel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Innovimax SARL wrote:
>>> Dear Lofton,
>>>
>>> Please find my answer inside the email
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Lofton Henderson <lofton@rockynet.com
>>> <mailto:lofton@rockynet.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Dear Mohamed,
>>>
>>>    The WebCGM Working Group has reviewed the comments you sent [1]
>>>    about the WebCGM 2.1 Second Last Call Working Draft [2] published on
>>>    04 June 2009.  Thank you for having taken the time to review the
>>>    document and send us comments.
>>>
>>>    The Working Group's response resolution to your comment is included
>>>    below.
>>>
>>>    Please review it carefully and acknowledge this WebCGM WG response
>>>    by replying to this mail and copying the WebCGM public mailing list,
>>>    public-webcgm@w3.org <mailto:public-webcgm@w3.org>.  Please reply
>>>    before 17 August 2009, and let us know whether you accept the WG
>>>    response or not.  If we receive no reply from you by August 17, then
>>>    we will default your reply to "WebCGM WG response accepted."
>>>
>>>    In case you do not accept the WG response, you are requested to
>>>    provide a specific solution for or a path to a consensus with the
>>>    Working Group.
>>>
>>>    If such a consensus cannot be achieved, you will be given the
>>>    opportunity to raise a formal objection which will then be reviewed
>>>    by the Director during the transition of this document to the next
>>>    stage in the W3C Recommendation Track.
>>>
>>>    Best regards,
>>>
>>>    On behalf of the WebCGM Working Group,
>>>    Lofton Henderson, WebCGM WG Chair.
>>>
>>>    [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm/2009Jun/0002.html
>>>    [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-webcgm21-20090604/
>>>    _____________________________________________________________
>>>    * Comment Sent: Sat, 20 Jun 2009
>>>    * Archived:
>>>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm/2009Jun/0002.html
>>>    The WebCGM WG has the following responses to your comment:
>>>    ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>    SUMMARY of your first comment:
>>>    1 == moving forward with XML Schema or Relax NG ==
>>>    Sticking to DTD to define a XML dialect is neither sufficient
>>>    neither a way to widespread the use of this XML dialect. For that, I
>>>    ask the WG to consider providing normative XML Schema and/or Relax
>>>    NG schema of the XCF model. It will help adoption especially because
>>>    XCF uses Namespaces.
>>>
>>>    RESPONSE to your first comment:
>>>    The WebCGM Working Group (WG) agrees that WebCGM could potentially
>>>    benefit by addition of a normative schema -- XML Schema or Relax NG.
>>>    Unfortunately, this proposal is beyond the scope of this 2nd LCWD
>>>    review, and it is deemed to be too late in the WebCGM 2.1
>>>    development cycle. Ideally, such a proposal would have been included
>>>    in the WebCGM 2.1 Requirements, or before 1st LCWD review at latest.
>>>    The implementation of such a proposal would involve major disruption
>>>    of the WebCGM 2.1 text -- removal of the DTD and complete rewriting
>>>    of Chapter 4 (at least). Since it does not address an error in the
>>>    specification, or a serious defect, or violation of any W3C
>>>    requirement, the WG believes that the proposal should be postponed
>>>    until a future WebCGM development cycle.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough. I was not suggesting removing the DTD
>>>
>>>
>>>    As an interim step, the WG thinks that a non-normative Technical
>>>    Note, separate from the progression of 2.1 WebCGM, might be an
>>>    interesting approach. The WG would also welcome an initial
>>>    contribution, if you have interest in making such.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's seems exactly what I proposed. I'm sorry since I don't have any
>>> initial contribution, but I will be happy to give it a try or to review them
>>> with care
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    SUMMARY of your second comment:
>>>    2 == interaction between WebCGM and CSS ==
>>>    Is it possible to consider the role that could play CSS vis à vis
>>>    WebCGM ?
>>>
>>>    RESPONSE to your second comment:
>>>    Potential relationships between WebCGM and CSS were studied in some
>>>    detail [3] prior to the WebCGM 2.0 standardization. This study [3]
>>>    developed a detailed model and showed the technical feasibility for
>>>    a rich application of CSS-like styling to WebCGM.
>>>    [3] http://www.cgmopen.org/technical/stylable_cgm_submitted_0324.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to consider adding an informative note on that work in the
>>> spec (with one or two sentence along), if it is not already there ?
>>>
>>>
>>>    Despite the technical feasibility, the WebCGM 2.0 authors and
>>>    constituents agreed that the the principal WebCGM use cases did not
>>>    justify the cost and implementation effort of such a full-featured
>>>    normative CSS capability in WebCGM. Therefore normative CSS-like
>>>    style sheets were not further pursued.
>>>
>>>    Nevertheless, whenever possible, applicable features and
>>>    characteristics of CSS were followed in the design of WebCGM 2.0,
>>>    especially the new DOM-based Style Properties feature. For example
>>>    the inheritance model of CSS was adapted directly into the Style
>>>    Properties inheritance model (section 5.4), and there are a number
>>>    of other examples of functionality borrowed more-or-less directly
>>>    from CSS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mohamed
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