Notes from 2020-06-01 call

Hi,

Here are my rough notes from our call yesterday; next call on June 15.

Dom
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ACTIONS:
* Dom to create github org to host wireframe project in single repo
* Nick to evaluate transfer of webauthn.guide to FIDO
* Andrew to evaluate hosting of webauthn.guide in FIDO and other
deliverables from the group
* Bart to start discussion on how to frame the wireframe project (e.g.
single unified UX or not) with pros/cons
* Luke to give information on webauthn.dev future

Present:
Dom, Alex Seigler, Nick, Matthew Miller, Cindy, John Fontana, Andrew
Shikiar, David Turner, Luke Walker, Bart

Intro:
Alex: Identity & Security in EA
Matthew: independent contributor

Wireframe project:
Matthew: coming from dev experience; biggest pain point is casting
different type of data (arraybuffer, strings, etc) - it would help if
the wireframe project took a position; ArrayBuffers don't transmit as
JSON very well. casting should not be something that developers need to
think about - standardize on a single approach across frameworks/languages.

Nick: super useful input - I can feel that painpoint. agree an "npm
install"able library would be useful

Matthew: I've published a couple of libraries last week - one for
front-end, one for back-end (node) - they're tightly coupled; comes with
a one-file express server. FE exposes a single method that takes care of
the conversions that are needed

Dom: raised set of logistical questions on how to set up the project
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn-adoption/2020May/0017.html

Nick: single repo helps with ensuring conformance

Matthew: agree single repo is better; as todomvc did
  helped give legitimacy, brand of best practices
  use PR to help community contributions

Nick: the todomvc approach seems OK to me

Luke: +1

Matthew: I tried running the conformance tool of the fido alliance -
it's an electron app; we can use as inspiration (or possibly re-use) for
our CI

Andrew: in FIDO, we're looking at empowering web developer with better
testing

Matthew: it would be good to have a clearer way to report issues on it

David: so far, had been set up for formal certification process; we will
be revisiting for obvious reasons

Dom: single repo then - could be hosted in @w3c

Andrew: will need a bit more time to give an answer wrt @fidoalliance
  FIDO would also be happy to host the Web site

Nick: standalone org sounds good to me

Matthew: separate org branded for community sounds interesting; W3C &
FIDO feels very "enterprisy"; having something less formal might make it
less scary / more approachable

Nick: compelling argument

Dom: what name? easy would be webauthn-adoption, but not very inspiring
for our audience

Matthew: something like "webauthn developer network"? there may also be
a consumer education aspect

David: beyond the github org, I think we need a top-level landing page
that guide both developers and end-users to the right resources - à la
todomvc.com

Matthew: +1

Andrew: we need to think carefully about audiences; my impression is
that this initiative is focusing on dev community; my sense is that
consumers aren't the audience of what we're talking; best practices to
deploying organization, yes
  there is fragmentation - lots of activity in the market around
deployment, but it needs coordination
  we also need to look at it long-term - we need to make sure we have a
good understanding of sustainability

Matthew: Duo has a great resource that was very useful to me -
webauthn.guide

Nick: My colleague Suby and I did webauthn.guide and webauthn.io

Andrew: but then again, we need to look at the long term

Nick: indeed, e.g. webauthn.guide needs to be transfered; could look
into transferring it e.g. to FIDO

Andrew: will look into possibility on FIDO side

Dom: will create separate org + repo and invite members to the org

Matthew: will provide node version

Bart: how do we approach this? single unified UX, or more freedom per
language/framework

Dom: can someone lists pros/cons

Bart: will do

Matthew: webauthn.dev is owned by Yubico

Luke: I'll check what the plans for the domain are

Nick: Re UX, @@@.info that supports OTP and WebAuthN

Received on Tuesday, 2 June 2020 07:17:12 UTC