- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:49:24 -0500
- To: Stuart Williams <skw@hp.com>
- Cc: public-webarch-comments@w3.org, Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
>[Bcc'd TAG to avoid further cross-posting] > >I have read (quickly) over Pats annotated version at >http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes/2004-PatHayesComments.html Thanks for doing this excellent summary. >Interestingly in the 2nd para of his comments after "Assign distinct >URI..." he says: "One qualification to the above: it is reasonable >to require this kind of unmambiguous distinctness when we expect >that URIs will be dereferenced, i.e. used to access things, and the >thing accessed is what the meaning is. .... But access is one thing, >and naming/reference is something else. Probably this wouldnt >matter, if it were not for the fact that semantic web formalisms use >URIs to refer with no presumption of accessibility, which rather >forces one to make the distinction more carefully. " Re. the above, a recent msg from Patrick Stickler at Nokia may be relevant. He is addressing the topic of 'named graphs' in a discussion of whether a blank node could be used as a name (no); but I want to draw your attention to the attitude expressed towards URIs and naming versus dereference. (Patrick, forgive me for forwarding this without permission.) ------- .......I wanted to offer one additional comment... Even if a URI is required as a graph name, it need not involve any significant mental or management effort to decide what URI to use, if either (a) one does not care if the URI is human readable (mnemmonic) and/or (b) one does not care if the URI is dereferencable (though I think folks should). E.g. one can simply employ UUIDs either in an http: URI http://example.com/id/dae07413-018c-43dc-9a0e-503a46484585 or in a uuid: or guid: URI uuid:dae07413-018c-43dc-9a0e-503a46484585 guid:dae07413-018c-43dc-9a0e-503a46484585 or in a urn:uuid: URN urn:uuid:dae07413-018c-43dc-9a0e-503a46484585 etc. etc. Thus, folks who tend to get their undies in a wad about having to use http: URIs for stuff they don't consider "web accessible" or folks who suffer angst about the linguistic baggage potentially carried by a human readable URIs can relax (a bit). ------- Pat -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32501 (850)291 0667 cell phayes@ihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
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