- From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:47:05 +0100
- To: <public-webarch-comments@w3.org>
At the Ottawa F2F I expressed some reservations about what the is now the LC#2 draft has to say on URI Ownership (the section 2.2.2). The TAG challenged me to offer an alternative that I would address my concerns. I did so [1] however my proposal was too late to be discussed and considered for the LC draft. I repeat it below (with minor typographic corrections) for the purpose of putting it in a public archive and asking the TAG to consider it as an improvement on the current text (now section 2.2.1.1) during its Last Call. The current text discusses URI ownership as an approach to avoiding URI collision. The concept of URI ownership discussed indirectly and in something of a 'roundabout fashion'. The proposed replacement text speaks directly to the concept of URI ownership. It frames URI Ownership in terms of the rights and responsibilies of URI owners. The text it is proposed to replace currently discusses URI ownership as an approach to avoiding URI collision and discusses URI ownership in something of a 'roundabout fashion'. The proposed text gives the data URI scheme as an example where ownership is vested in the relevant URI scheme specification (and the community that maintains it) and is not further delegated. This view does risk further review comments and I'd like some feedback on whether it is a view that the TAG can support. The proposed text maintains the concept of a social entity and the last two paragraphs of the original. I think that it may also contribute to response to the comments from Peter Patel-Schnieder in response to our 1st LC [2] BR Stuart -- [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Aug/0038.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues#pps1 -----Original Message----- From: Williams, Stuart Sent: 17 August 2004 06:53 To: Norman Walsh Cc: tag@w3.org Subject: 2.2.2 URI Ownership (was Re: LC2 Candidate Review) Norm, As promised at the F2F and more recently... I've done some thinking about the sort of language I'd expected to see on the topic of URI Ownership. I have tried to avoid completely the concept of authority because I cannot determine whether ownership and authority are synonyms. I have also written this from the point-of-view that a given URI is associated with a single resource over time - ie. the identify: URI x Resource relation is context independent - which seems to be the mainsteam position held by the TAG. [Personally, I remain open to a context dependent identity relation - but I will not push that here]. The last two para below are taken form 2.2.2. What's offered here covers the scope of 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 making 2.2.3 largely redundant, although it could be intergrated as another example in the 3rd para. It also risks the author of the data URI scheme (L. Masinter) rejecting the notion that those URI are owned by the scheme specification (and the community that maintains it). Let me know what you think! Other TAG members might also chime in with support or opposition to the suggestion below. BR Stuart -- 2.2.1.1 URI ownership URI ownership is a relation between URI and a social entity, such as a person or an organisation. URI Ownership gives the relevant social entity rights to 1) pass on ownership of some or all owned URI to another owner - URI allocation; and 2) to associate a resource with an owned URI - URI assignment. By social convention, URI ownership delegated from the IANA URI scheme registry, itself a social entity, to IANA registered URI scheme specifications. Some URI scheme specifications further delegate ownership to subordinate registries or to other nominated owners - and so on. For example, the URN URI scheme [RFCxxxx] delegates ownership of portions of URN space to URN Namespace specifications which themselves are registered in an IANA maintained registry of URN Namespace Ids. Other URI schemes or nominated owners retain ownership within the relevant scheme specification (or some other specification registered in a subordinate registry) such that that specification and the community that maintain it serve in the role of URI owners. e.g. the specification of the data URI scheme [RFC2397] serves as owner of all data scheme URI. It does not further delegate ownership of portions of data URI space. It associates each data URI with an resource, a representation of which is embedded with each data URI [or the representation is infact the resource]. URI Owners have a responsibility to avoid multiple URI assignments that associate equivalent URI with multiple resources. Thus, it is also necessary that any approach to URI allocation, which passes ownership of individual or organised sets of URI through delegation, ensures that ultimate ownership of a particular URI is vested in a single social entity (which may be a specification, a person or an organisation). URI Owners may organise or deploy infrastruture to ensure that representations of associated resources are available, and where appropriate interaction with the resource is possible through the exchange of representations. There are social expectations for responsible representation management [section 3.6] by URI owners, discussed below. Additional social implications of URI ownership are not discussed here. However, the success or failure of these different approaches depends on the extent to which there is consensus in the Internet community on abiding by the defining specifications. See TAG issue siteData-36, which concerns the expropriation of naming authority. -- Norman Walsh wrote: > / Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> was heard to say: > | On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 08:25, Williams, Stuart wrote: > |> In the time available I have not managed to review beyond the > |> beginning of section 3.2.1 "Details of Retreiving a Representation". > |> > |> Overall... and I wish I could say otherwise, I think this would be > |> fine as a WD publication, however, I think it is premature as an LC2 publication. > | > | Thanks for the thorough review, Stuart. I find your comments > | somewhat persuasive. > | > | I'm interested to know if they convince Norm, Chris, or Paul that we > | should slow dow a bit... > > I think Stuart makes some good points. There's no doubt that the > document could be improved. As I was acting chair and acting editor > when we decided to publish this document, I'd like to hear from some > other folks. > > In any event, I'm reluctant to press forward over Stuart's objections. > > Be seeing you, > norm >
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