- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:04:41 -0400
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Dear Reviewer, The TAG addressed a number of Last Call issues at their recent face-to-face meeting in Boston [1]. Below is a summary of how the TAG addressed Last Call issues. Although changes have not yet been incorporated into the document, I welcome your comments on the TAG's intended direction. The next draft of the Architecture Document should be available the first week of June. If your name is in the To: line of this message, the TAG discussed an issue that you or your Working Group raised. Please note that for some issues listed below, further input from you is requested. The TAG's Last Call issues list [2] contains this information as well. Thank you, - Ian Reference Arch Doc: 10 May 2004 Editor's Draft http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2004/webarch-20040510/ [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/05/14-tag-summary.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html ================== Issues addressed ================== ------------------------ Michael Sperberg-McQueen http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#msm2 The TAG has resolved to keep the drop shadow in the first illustration in the document. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#msm13 The TAG resolved to make the following changes to the document: 1) Include three examples about content negotiation as proposed by TBL. 2) State clearly that it's an error for representation providers to provide representations with inconsistent frag id semantics. 3) Talk about consistency as being in the eye of the representation provider (not forgetting that users also have expectations). Thus, the answer to the reviewer's last question is: the notion of consistency is in the eye of the representation provider. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#msm14 The TAG agrees with the reviewer regarding the general case, but it doesn't apply to this specific instance. The TAG does not feel changes to the document are required. -------------------------------- XML Schema Working Group http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema13 The TAG agrees with the reviewer that the text does not communicate why extensibility may not be appropriate in some cases. Furthermore, the TAG has resolved to delete the phrase "falling back to default behavior". The Editor expects to insert a story in the section on extensibility about protocol extensibility. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema14 Norm Walsh has an action item to write some text to address schema14. The TAG believes that the related finding include text that may satisfy the reviewer's concern. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema15 The TAG believes the 10 May 2004 draft addresses the reviewer's concerns and invites comment from the reviewer. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema17 The TAG resolved to: - Delete "that can be understood in any context" (Already done in 10 May 2004 draft.) - Modify remaining sentence to say: "Namespaces in xml use URIs in order to obtain the properties of a global namespace." - Include a reference to 2.2 URI ownership. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema18 The Editor expects to make changes to point to the XML Schema spec (possibly with the xsi ns URI in text). http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#schema20 The TAG believes that the 10 May 2004 draft addresses the reviewer's concern, with the following changes: - change fourth bullet in 10 May 2004 draft to read "In practice, applications may have independent means of locating identifiers inside a document such as provided for and specified in the XPointer specification." - include a reference to section 3.2. -------------------------------- Device Independent Working Group http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#diwg1 The TAG believes that the reviewer has misunderstood the the notion of "URI persistence" and would like further input on desired changes to the 10 May 2004 draft. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#diwg2 The TAG believes that it is useful to indicate that there are two resources (one Spanish and one Italian) but to add to the example some discussion of content negotiation. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#diwg4 The TAG that more needs to be stated about trade-offs. The TAG has created a new general issue mediaTypeManagement-45 [1]. [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#mediaTypeManagement-45 ------------------------ Patrick Stickler http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler2 It is likely that, in light of changes expected in light of progress on issue httpRange-14 that there will be a clarification regarding the definition of "namespace document". http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler3 The TAG agreed with the Editor's choice not to change the glossary entry in the 10 May 2004 Draft. The TAG would like more input from the reviewer on whether the reviewer is satisfied with how the term is used in context. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler6 The TAG asked the Editor to edit this section to say that: * It is useful to have a URI for requests and results. * Here are ways to do so in HTTP... http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler4 The TAG has resolved not to change the text. People SHOULD provide representations; the community is poorer where representations are not available. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler7 The Editor believes the reviewer's comments regarding URI ownership and authoritative metadata are addressed by changes in the 10 May 2004 draft. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#stickler9 The TAG rejected the text proposed in the 10 May 2004 draft and asked the Editor to remove this sentence from the document: "Note also that since dereferencing a URI (e.g., using HTTP) does not involve sending a fragment identifier to a server or other agent, certain access methods (e.g., HTTP PUT, POST, and DELETE) cannot be used to interact with secondary resources."" ------------------------ Sandro Hawke http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#hawke1 There was general support for the inclusion of a visibility principle. ------------------------ Kendall Clark http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark1a The answer to the reviewer's question is "yes to 1." The TAG believes that no change to the document is required. The Editor expects to add a reference to RFC2396 in context. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark3 The TAG believes the reviewer's question is addressed by section 3.6.2 of the document; no other changes are expected at this time. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark4a The TAG believes that the statements say different things and both are justified; no other changes are expected at this time. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark4b The Editor expects to incorporate a suggested tweak for section 2:"Formats that allow content authors to use URIs instead of local identifiers foster the "network effect": the value of these formats grows with the size of the deployed Web." http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark5 [See dhm2 below] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#clark6 In line with the reviewer's comments, Chris Lilley will propose additional text regarding separation of content and presentation that includes more about tradeoffs. ------------------------ Elliotte Rusty Harold http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#harold1 The TAG resolved to demote the first constraint of section 2.1 to a sentence. ------------------------ David M. Karr http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#karr1 The TAG accepted the Editor's proposal to address this issue by including a parenthetical explanation of what the authority component is. ------------------------ Dominique Hazael-Massieux http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#dhm2 The TAG believes that distinguishing "error correction" (errors that can be corrected as though they never happened) from "error recovery" (situations where the agent cannot correct the error) will improve the text. The Editor will incorporate the change. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#dhm3 The TAG agreed with the reviewer and plans to define "extended language" and "extension" as the reviewer suggested. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#dhm4 The TAG asked the Editor to include text about how, in general, protocols have more resilient interfaces than software APIs generally have. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#dhm6 The TAG asked the Editor to compress sections 3.4 and 3.4.1 into a single section 3.4. The title of the section will be "Message semantics". ------------------------ Sergio Rodriguez http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#rodriguez1 The TAG does not believe that Architecture Document needs to address the reviewer's question. ------------------------ Al Gilman http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#gilman2 The TAG believes that "orthogonal", not "independent" is the proper term. E.g., the HTTP specification depends on the URI specification, but they are orthogonal. The TAG also decided to remove the term "loosely coupled" and to change "independent" to "may evolve independently." ------------------------ Bijan Parsia http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#parsia7 The TAG agreed to replace the constraint at beginning of section 2 with a new principle and good practice note. - [Principle] URI assignment: global naming leads to beneficial network effects. - [GPN] It is beneficial to assign a URI to a resource because then others can then refer to it by URI. ------------------------ Graham Klyne http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#klyne12 The TAG agreed with the reviewer's point, but has decided to keep the text and clarify it. The TAG resolved to make the following changes to the 10 May 2004 draft: - To remove "During a retrieval action" in section 3.3.1 - Delete from "Note..." to end of paragraph (in the third paragraph after the story). http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#klyne15 The TAG believes that the following minor changes to the document are sufficient to address the reviewer's concern. - In 2.2, change to "(for example, to a server manager or someone who has been delegated part of the URI space on a given Web server). - s/authorities servicing URIs/URI owners http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#klyne19 The TAG agreed with the reviewer and plans the following changes to the 10 May 2004 draft: - Change third bullet in section 4.2.4 to: "The semantics of combining RDF documents with multiple vocabularies is well-defined." - Delete "and allows text and XML to be used as a data type values within a statement having clearly defined semantics." from the same bullet. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#klyne21 Chris Lilley has an action item to draft text to explain that there's a tradeoff in this situation. ------------------------ Frank Manola http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#manola19 The TAG intends to clarify the text to indicate that parties who draw conclusions from syntactic analysis of URIs alone do so at their own risk. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#manola29 The TAG agreed to accept this change, which eliminates the phrase "language instances": "A format specification SHOULD provide for version information." http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#manola30 The TAG agreed to delete the sentence beginning "As part of defining" from section 4.2.3. http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#manola31 The TAG believes this issue has been addressed by virtue of deletion of the text in question (in the 10 May 2004 draft). ------------------------ Jacek Kopecky http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html#kopecky3 Ian Jacobs and Chris Lilley have an action item to draft a proposal to address this issue. (No clear direction from 14 May 2004 minutes, but there was discussion about whether the content was "designed for presentation".) -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 718 260-9447
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