- From: Mike West <mkwst@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:55:12 +0100
- To: Scott Helme <scotthelme@hotmail.com>, oreoshake@github.com, Richard Barnes <rbarnes@mozilla.com>, Patrick Toomey <patrick.toomey@github.com>
- Cc: "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>
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I'm fine with a `require-sri` source expression that could be added to `script-src`, or a `require-sri` directive that stands on its own. I lean towards the latter because it feels a little strange to treat this kind of requirement as a "source", and because having a separate directive for this policy change probably fits better with CSP's extensibility model (and is easily defined in a separate document from CSP itself). If someone feels strongly about using the former I'd probably accept a PR, though. :) -mike On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Scott Helme <scotthelme@hotmail.com> wrote: > I agree, I'd love to see some traction with this. > > Angular will soon be providing the appropriate script tags with integrity > values for each release: > https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/13968#issuecomment-181633726 > This makes deploying SRI a matter of copy and paste. > > SRI is much easier to deploy than CSP and only requires maintenance when > you change the script/style tag itself, CSP requires ongoing knowledge and > maintenance. > I think adoption of SRI will likely eclipse CSP relatively soon, I'm > betting with you, not against! > > Regards, > > > Scott Helme / Information Security Consultant > PGP Key <https://scotthelme.co.uk/contact/> > > > https://scotthelme.co.uk > https://report-uri.io > https://securityheaders.io > https://scotthel.me > [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/Scott_Helme>[image: Facebook] > <https://www.facebook.com/scott.helme>[image: GooglePlus] > <https://plus.google.com/+ScottHelme/posts>[image: YouTube] > <https://www.youtube.com/user/ScottHelme>[image: LinkedIn] > <https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scotthelme>[image: GitHub] > <https://github.com/ScottHelme/>[image: Skype] <http://scott.helme87> > > On 16/03/2016 17:18, Neil Matatall wrote: > > What can we do to get this moving? No matter the form, I don't think > there's any disagreement about whether or not this is valuable. We're > starting to see a proliferation of SRI attributes included in example > snippets for 3rd party assets. It's my gut instinct* that SRI has the > possibility of eclipsing CSP in terms of adoption, but that's a > different topic. It sounds like CSP bloat and SRI changes are the > biggest hurdles. Something that may alleviate both concerns: > > block-non-sri-resources: stylesheets, scripts(, images, videos, unicorns) > > I would still love to see this as a part of CSP, especially if we're > talking about adding something related to noopenerhttps://twitter.com/mikewest/status/710025892970504193. Maybe this > separate header value can also work as a directive, just remove [:,] > > * I'll take bets > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Patrick Toomey<patrick.toomey@github.com> <patrick.toomey@github.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:47 AM Frederik Braun <fbraun@mozilla.com> <fbraun@mozilla.com> wrote: > > On 09.02.2016 19:35, Craig Francis wrote: > > I'm forgetting the discussion a bit, but CSP already gives us: > > block-all-mixed-content > upgrade-insecure-requests > > Maybe we could keep it as just one directive: > > block-non-sri-resources > > Or am I missing the more advanced cases like saying SRI is required for > all JavaScript files, but not on CSS (doubt that is useful, as you might > as well do both)... or maybe in the future SRI could be added to images, > video, etc? > > We'd need to think about compatibility assuming SRI will expand to other > tags. > > I would be surprised if nobody wanted a report-mode and a block-mode and > a way to specify which subresources/elements should be subject to the > policy. (The list of elements could be abbreviated with a short-hand > form, e.g., "sri-v1" meaning scripts & styles.) > > I guess this level of complexity (and Mark Nottingham's comment about > HPACK and entropy) warrants its own header? > > > I'm curious where the line should be drawn between extending CSP and adding > a new header? Not having been involved with CSP from day one, maybe this has > already been discussed. But, I feel like CSP is a natural place to > centralize on browser based security policies (like x-frame-options > migrating to frame-ancestors). Adding a new header for each and every new > good idea for browser security doesn't seem to scale. As has been mentioned > in this thread prior, it feels like we are starting to bump up against > practical size consideration issues. Whether the CSP header itself grows too > large or we end up adding 50 headers to each HTTP response, there is an > issue of bloat. It would be a shame to place some artificial cap on good > ideas based on concerns for adding too many new headers and/or stretching > the size of the CSP header. I personally feel like moving toward a > centralized policy/manifest/resource sounds like the best way to handle > this, but I think most of that discussion is best had over in the "header > size and policy delivery" thread. I just wanted to bring it up here since I > think the "where do we put it" discussion should be deferred until later, > since it seems like this is a general concern for almost anything new that > is proposed. > > >
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