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Re: Definition of secure origin in MIX and POWER

From: Mike West <mkwst@google.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 18:25:53 +0200
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To: Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org>
Cc: Francois Marier <francois@mozilla.com>, "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>
Note that whether `localhost` or `` or any other RFC1918 URL is
blocked by MIX is a separate question from whether or not they should be
blocked, period (I think they should, modulo some sort of authentication
ceremony that would allow embedding). I still think this group should
tackle that question, and I'm still a bit sad that we dropped that
discussion from this iteration of MIX.


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On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org> wrote:

> Francois Marier <francois@mozilla.com> wrote:
>> Is there a reason why the mixed content spec doesn't use the same
>> definition of "potentially secure origin" as the powerful features spec?
>> In particular, "http://localhost" is potentially secure in POWER but not
>> in MIX.
> In some operating systems, it is possible to have localhost resolve to
> something other than ::1 or In a reasonably-configured system,
> that wouldn't happen, but it makes me uncomfortable about treating
> HTTP://localhost specially.
> Personally, I am often running servers locally for testing things and
> rarely are any of those servers "secure" in any sense. And I definitely
> wouldn't want any external website https://example.com/ to be able to
> load anything from any of my local servers in an iframe or otherwise,
> whether it be https://localhost or http://localhost on any port.
> Consequently, I don't think the definition in MIX should be changed.
> Cheers,
> Brian
Received on Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:26:42 UTC

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