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Re: CSP2: Drop 'unsafe-redirect'.

From: Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:25:24 -0400
Message-ID: <55945AC4.1060204@w3.org>
To: Mike West <mkwst@google.com>, "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>
CC: Brad Hill <hillbrad@gmail.com>, Dan Veditz <dveditz@mozilla.com>
On 07/01/2015 11:58 AM, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
> On 07/01/2015 10:12 AM, Mike West wrote:
>> Neither Chrome nor Firefox have implemented the `unsafe-redirect` bits of
>> CSP2 (see 1.2 of http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP2/#changes-from-level-1).
>> Experimentation locally on internal sites leads me to believe that it's not
>> going to be web compatible: I didn't find any Google property that used CSP
>> which the new behavior wouldn't break in some way.
>>
>> Moreover, statistics from Chrome show that about 0.7% of page views would
>> be affected (trending upwards), which is significantly above the bar that
>> Blink has for breaking changes:
>> https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/709
>>
>> We didn't declare it as "at risk" in the CSP2 CR, though we probably should
>> have. I think this means that removing the source expression and associated
>> behavior is likely a "substantive change"[1], which I think means that we
>> need to revise and republish the CR. Wendy, can you confirm that?
> 
> I'll double-check with colleagues, but I think you're reading correctly
> that this is a substantive change that warrants another short trip
> through CR (or 4 weeks, as short as process allows).

Per Process 2014, I confirmed that we do need to issue a revised CR
http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#revised-cr

Let's get confirmation that the group wants to remove this feature, and
then I'll ask for Director review.

Thanks,
--Wendy

> 
>>
>> (Note to self: next time, mark the whole spec as "at risk" to make
>> deletions take less than a month and a half. :) )
> 
> Somehow, I don't think that would pass muster with the Director, no
> matter how clever :)
> 
> --Wendy
> 
>>
>> [1]: http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#substantive-change
>> [2]: http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#revised-cr
>>
>> --
>> Mike West <mkwst@google.com>, @mikewest
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> 
> 


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