- From: Hatter Jiang OWS <hatter@openwebsecurity.org>
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:30:26 +0800
- To: Ben Toews <btoews@github.com>
- Cc: Mike West <mkwst@google.com>, Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org>, Joel Weinberger <jww@chromium.org>, Frederik Braun <fbraun@mozilla.com>, "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABm0mE6L2yOk9Ucxi_Y8uuFJPQjA=oP_RhBuzrYGjLxxm2+fcg@mail.gmail.com>
Is it possible use signature in SRI: <script src="https://cdn.example.com/some.js" integrity="key:///rsa;public-key-in-base64?ct=application/javascript"> The resource should contain a header name: Content-Signature like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-burke-content-signature-00 The user agent just verify the resource use RSA public key. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ben Toews <btoews@github.com> wrote: > A lot of CDNs host assets under a subpath instead of on a subdomain. This > makes CSP harder to implement because an attacker can host JavaScript on a > trusted domain. Like Frederik mentions the attacker can also then inject > script tags then without an integrity attribute. I'd love it if script-hash > worked on remote scripts or if SRI could be specified with a header. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mike West <mkwst@google.com> wrote: > >> I think a future iteration of SRI could certainly tie CSP hashes to SRI >> digests, with some syntax that forced both to be present. That is, given: >> >> CSP: script-src 'sha256-kh....lkhf' >> >> <script src='http://whatever.com/script.js' >> integrity='ni:///kh...lkhf'> <!-- loads! --> >> <script src='http://whatever.com/script.js'> <!-- doesn't! --> >> >> -mike >> >> -- >> Mike West <mkwst@google.com> >> Google+: https://mkw.st/+, Twitter: @mikewest, Cell: +49 162 10 255 91 >> >> Google Germany GmbH, Dienerstrasse 12, 80331 München, Germany >> Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891 >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamburg >> Geschäftsführer: Graham Law, Christine Elizabeth Flores >> (Sorry; I'm legally required to add this exciting detail to emails. Bleh.) >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On Joel Weinberger <jww@chromium.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Frederik Braun <fbraun@mozilla.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I want to use CSP I am saying "I trust this whole origin". If I want >>>>> to use SRI I say "I do not trust this origin, but that file is fine". >>>>> >>>>> With SRI in place means we will put an untrusted origin (it's untrusted >>>>> - otherwise we wouldn't use SRI?) into the CSP whitelist. Meaning that >>>>> every file from this untrusted origin is fine. >>>>> >>>> Not necessarily. With paths in CSP, it's certainly possible that you'd >>>> only list the one file. >>>> >>> >>> I suspect that for usability reasons, most websites are going to have >>> pretty course-grained CSP policies, whitelisting whole domains or fairly >>> non-specific path prefixes. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> This is a weird contradiction. Assuming XSS and thinking the CDN may >>>>> indeed become evil, an attacker may just include <script >>>>> src="https://cdn.example/evil.js"> instead of <script >>>>> src="https://cdn.example/lib.js integrity=valid> and it will work :( >>>>> >>>> I don't see this as a contradiction at all. Perhaps a better way to >>>> describe CSP and SRI is: >>>> * CSP is for protecting your web application from client-side >>>> compromise >>>> * SRI is for protecting your web application from third-party server >>>> compromise >>>> >>> >>> I mostly agree with your classification. But, I also agree with Frederik >>> that it seems strange that there's no way to combine SRI with CSP while >>> honoring the principle of least privilege. >>> >>> Consider this: >>> >>> Content-Security-Policy: script-src http://example.com/foo.js >>> >>> <script src='http://example.com/foo.js' integrity='ni:[digest]'> >>> >>> <script src='http://example.com/foo.js'> >>> >>> The first <script> is an intended part of the page. The second script is >>> injected with XSS. Thus, an XSS attack is able to undo the protection of >>> SRI even when CSP is in place, and there is nothing you can do about it >>> with CSP, *even* if you use a full path. That seems wrong. On the other >>> hand, your server-side development framework should never have let the XSS >>> happened in the first place, and CSP is the last line of defense, not the >>> first. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Brian >>> >> >> >
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