Re: CSP and inline styles

I certainly can, I'll join with Tanvi and Dan.

thanks,
ian


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Hill" <bhill@paypal-inc.com>
To: "Ian Melven" <imelven@mozilla.com>
Cc: public-webappsec@w3.org, "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 3:17:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSP and inline styles

Ian, can you join our call tomorrow at 2pm Pacific?

Brad Hill
Ecosystem Security
PayPal Information Risk Management
cell: 206.245.7844 / skype: hillbrad

On Oct 22, 2012, at 3:04 PM, "Ian Melven" <imelven@mozilla.com> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> As part of our work to implement the CSP 1.0 spec in Gecko (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663566),
> we have been looking at what we need to do to block inline styles (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763879)
> 
> The reason for this post is that we need more discussion among the WG (and possible clearer guidance in the spec) as to what
> threats blocking styles is intended to address and what threats are considered out of scope for this
> restriction (eg if it's intended to stop data exfiltration).
> 
> Additionally, we could really use clarification in the spec as to what methods of applying CSS should be blocked in a CSP 1.0 compliant UA
> (and this would hopefully lead to more consistency across implementations).
> 
> Previously on this mailing list, we discussed blocking mechanisms that apply CSS that
> are equivalent to inserting and parsing a <style> node in the DOM. 
> 
> Specifically, we considered the following list of ways to apply CSS: 
> (from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763879#c26) 
> 
> * doc.body.appendChild(doc.createElement("style"));
> * doc.body.setAttribute("style", "...");
> * doc.body.style.background = "...";
> * bgcolor attributes appearing in the markup
> * <font> elements appearing in the markup
> * doc.body.appendChild(doc.createElement("font"));
> * doc.body.bgcolor = "...";
> * doc.body.innerHTML = "<style>...</style>";
> 
> However, in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763879#c33 Jonas points out: 
> 
> "The data-stealing attack described in the article below could be done using just element.style.background = ...;
> 
> So while it might "feel" safer, it's arguably not.
> 
> http://scarybeastsecurity.blogspot.com.es/2009/12/generic-cross-browser-cross-domain.html "
> 
> There is more discussion in bug 763879 about what mechanisms in the above list are equivalent and what
> the important distinction when evaluating these mechanisms is, and if basing it around if the 
> mechanism is equivalent to inserting a <style> node goes far enough - my personal opinion agrees with a
> statement from Jonas : "The critical distinction isn't whether you have to call a JS function in 
> order to launch the attack. The distinction is whether that function parses strings into harmful content."
> 
> Your thoughts are very welcome. 
> 
> thank you !
> ian
> 
>

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