- From: James M. Greene <james.m.greene@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:46:01 -0500
- To: Domenic Denicola <domenic@domenicdenicola.com>
- Cc: Robert Hanson <hansonr@stolaf.edu>, David Rajchenbach-Teller <dteller@mozilla.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, "Greeves, Nick" <ngreeves@liverpool.ac.uk>, Olli Pettay <olli@pettay.fi>
- Message-ID: <CALrbKZhsU_XBeLcBCEA9=H60iFfbXGszWuwKO01WufE2+PWoug@mail.gmail.com>
I just figured handling the Java2Script (Java to JavaScript) conversion into an ES6 module format would be substantially easier as the syntax is much more similar to Java's own than, say, AMD. But yes, it does add another layer of indirection via transpilation. Sincerely, James Greene On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Domenic Denicola < domenic@domenicdenicola.com> wrote: > FWIW I do not think ES6 modules are a good solution for your problem. > Since they are not in browsers, you would effectively be adding a layer of > indirection (the “transpilation” James discusses) that serves no purpose > besides to beta-test a future platform feature for us. There are much more > straightforward ways of solving your problem, i.e. I see no reason to go > Java -> JavaScript that doesn’t work in browsers -> JavaScript that works > in browsers. Just do Java -> JavaScript that works in browsers. > > > > *From:* James M. Greene [mailto:james.m.greene@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, September 5, 2014 05:09 > *To:* Robert Hanson > *Cc:* David Rajchenbach-Teller; public-webapps; Greeves, Nick; Olli Pettay > *Subject:* Re: =[xhr] > > > > ES6 is short for ECMAScript, 6th Edition, which is the next version of the > standard specification that underlies the JavaScript programming language. > > > > All modern browsers currently support ES5 (ECMAScript, 5th Edition) and > some parts of ES6. IE7-8 supported ES3 (ES4 was rejected, so supporting ES3 > was really only being 1 version behind at the time). > > > > In ES6, there is [finally] a syntax introduced for importing and exporting > "modules" (libraries, etc.). For some quick examples, you can peek at the ECMAScript > wiki <http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:modules_examples>. > > > > A transpiler is a tool that can take code written in one version of the > language syntax and convert it to another [older] version of that language. > In the case of ES6, you'd want to look into using es6-module-transpiler > <http://esnext.github.io/es6-module-transpiler/> to convert ES6-style > imports/exports into an AMD (asynchronous module definition) > <https://github.com/amdjs/amdjs-api/blob/master/AMD.md> format. > > > > That is, of course, assuming that your Java2Script translation could be > updated to output ES6 module syntax. > > > Sincerely, > James Greene > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Robert Hanson <hansonr@stolaf.edu> wrote: > > Can you send me some reference links? "transpiler"? "ES6 Module"? I > realize that what I am doing is pretty wild -- direct implementation of > Java in JavaScript -- but it is working so fantastically. Truly a dream > come true from a code management point of view. You should check it out. > > As far as I can see, what I would need if I did NOT implement async > throughout Jmol is a suspendable JavaScript thread, as in Java. Is that on > the horizon? > > Bob Hanson > > > > >
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