- From: Scott Miles <sjmiles@google.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:49:10 -0800
- To: Daniel Buchner <daniel@mozilla.com>
- Cc: Erik Arvidsson <arv@chromium.org>, Dimitri Glazkov <dglazkov@google.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu>
- Message-ID: <CAHbmOLaYYOYU_ir+iMVU6=-fd+n+yttzGrZW7RZ4f1feKvaoXw@mail.gmail.com>
Now with IE support: http://jsfiddle.net/aNHZH/5/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Scott Miles <sjmiles@google.com> wrote: > If that works, then what's the problem? It only need be done once per > component. > > I'm still confused, because it seems to me that 'unbaked object allowance > route' == components only work in IE if specified using tortured syntax. > > That's no bueno IMO. > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Buchner <daniel@mozilla.com> wrote: > >> Short of running Object.getOwnPropertyNames on the existing node > then >> iterating over each to grab the property descriptor with >> Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor to rebuild an unbaked object > and finally >> setting the properties with Object.setProperties, I am unaware of how to do >> so - is there an easier way? If so I would love to not do the above or go >> the unbaked object allowance wrapper route :) >> >> Daniel J. Buchner >> Product Manager, Developer Ecosystem >> Mozilla Corporation >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Scott Miles <sjmiles@google.com> wrote: >> >>> Seems like you decided that descriptor syntax is *necessary* for IE >>> compatibility. I'm 80% sure it is not. >>> >>> S >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Daniel Buchner <daniel@mozilla.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I guess it isn't a show stopper for poly-*ish*-fills, I would just >>>> wrap the native document.register method where it is present > sniff the >>>> incoming prototype property value to detect whether it was baked > cache >>>> the unbaked prototype > then pass a baked one to the native method. >>>> >>>> Of course this means we'll (I'll) be evangelizing a polyfill with a >>>> slightly augmented wrapper for taking unbaked objects, but for IE >>>> compatibility devs will probably offer their first born, so I doubt they'll >>>> bat an eye at such a benign incongruity. >>>> >>>> Daniel J. Buchner >>>> Product Manager, Developer Ecosystem >>>> Mozilla Corporation >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Scott Miles <sjmiles@google.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Remember where we started: absurdly clean ES6 class syntax. >>>>> >>>>> Requiring class definition class using property descriptors is a >>>>> radical march in the other direction. >>>>> >>>>> I'm hardcore about syntactical tidiness. The reason I'm not freaking >>>>> out about defineProperties is IMO because I can avoid it when I don't need >>>>> it (which is about 99% of the time). >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Daniel Buchner <daniel@mozilla.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I just made sure it worked, and it does. As for developers freaking >>>>>> out, I really don't believe they would. If that was the case, >>>>>> Object.defineProperties should be causing a global pandemic of >>>>>> whopper developer freakouts ( >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhF6Kr4ITNQ). >>>>>> >>>>>> This would give us easy IE compat for the whole range of property >>>>>> types, and I'm willing to all but guarantee developers will have a bigger >>>>>> freakout about not having IE9 support than the prototype property of >>>>>> document.register taking both a baked and unbaked object. >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel J. Buchner >>>>>> Product Manager, Developer Ecosystem >>>>>> Mozilla Corporation >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Scott Miles <sjmiles@google.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Daniel Buchner <daniel@mozilla.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So you're directly setting the user-added methods on matched >>>>>>>> elements in browsers that don't support proto, but what about accessors? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe those can be forwarded too, I just didn't bother in my >>>>>>> fiddle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Equipped with the unbaked prototype descriptor, in your upgrade >>>>>>>> phase, you should be able to simply bake the node with: >>>>>>>> Object.defineProperties(element, unbakedPrototypeDescriptor) - right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, but I believe developers would freak out if we required them to >>>>>>> provide that type of descriptor (I would). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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