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Re: Allow ... centralized dialog up front

From: Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:39:34 +0100
Message-ID: <CAOK8ODi5zSUnSGZV_XtWoNMoV2K5DBxW3xHd-2vfMPj0PJAVOw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, Webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
The idea is to allow vendors to improve their UX (if they're so inclined)
by allowing developers (if they're so inclined) to use a central, up front
API. For lack of a better term let's dummy it as "requestAPIs" and it would
work a bit like this:

var gotAPIs = function(mandatorEnabled, optionalAPIs){
  if(!mandatoryEnabled){ ...; return;}
  if(optionalAPIs.desktopNotification){ ... }

document.requestAPIs({mandatory: ['fullscreen', 'pointerlock', 'WebRTC',
'Webcam', 'geoLocation'], optional: ['desktopNotification',
'keyboardSymbolResolution', 'peer2peer'], onAPIs: gotAPIs});

How a vendor presents that to a user is the vendors choice, but the
semantic lets the vendor use that information for good UX. If a developer
wants to use that API is up to the developer, if he doesn't, he'd still go
down the "popup by popup" UX, that's up to the developer. But at least it
would be possible way forward.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't propose writing into a specification how the dialog would look
> like. There does need to be a specification however on the API that
> developers can use to indicate an applications desire to use any of the
> dozen or so restricted APIs.
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile <
> chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>> **
>> On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:59:35 +0100, Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>wrote:
>>> Web Security Experience, Indicators and Trust: Scope and Use Cases
>>>  <http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-wsc-usecases-20080306/>
>> Yeah, has anybody actually even read that notes TOC, you can scroll
>> straight to section 2.6:
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-wsc-usecases-20080306/#trust-decision-management
>> Lots of people, lots of times. It is one of the better-known truisms in
>> designing security interfaces, and a really well-known principle for
>> managing security on the Web.
>> It doesn't invalidate what Anne said - but what Anne said doesn't
>> invalidate your suggestion either. As I said, what you propose is what most
>> of the industry seems to already be moving towards.
>> Having it written in a new specification doesn't seem to make much sense
>> - it is already there. And it is one of they key ideas repeated almost
>> every time security or privacy comes up in relation to a specification.
>> cheers
>> Chaals
>> No matter how well security context information is presented, there will
>>> always be users who, in some situations, will behave insecurely even in the
>>> face of harsh warnings. Thus, the Working Group will also recommend ways to
>>> reduce the number of situations in which users need to make trust decisions.
>> --
>> Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
>> chaals@yandex-team.ru Find more at http://yandex.com
Received on Friday, 1 February 2013 12:40:06 UTC

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