- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:33:12 +0000 (UTC)
- To: John J Barton <johnjbarton@johnjbarton.com>
- cc: Paul Kinlan <paulkinlan@google.com>, Rich Tibbett <richt@opera.com>, James Hawkins <jhawkins@google.com>, public-webapps@w3.org
- Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1204022331290.22654@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, John J Barton wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > > There's no difference between two people coming up with the name "foo" > > and two people coming up with the name "http://webintents.org/foo", > > unless you're saying you're confident that people won't use the prefix > > the spec uses for its verbs for their verbs. > > I don't think this claim makes sense. As a developer I have no way to > know if 'foo' is used by anyone else on the Internet, but it would be > trivial to check "http://webintents.org/foo". How would you check if I'm using http://webintents.org/foo? > > But this is a non-problem. In practice, we have plenty of examples of > > spaces where conflicts don't happen despite not having used long names > > such as URLs. For example: > > > > - rel="" values in HTML > > - element names in HTML > > - MIME type names > > - scheme names > > I believe all of these examples have one or more central name controls. > The rel example in particular provides a counter example to using simple > uncontrolled verbs: http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values > Multiple naming authorities, layered on wiki, and still messy. Why are they more messy than DNS? > >> A verb on its own will imply that it is a web intents verb managed by > >> the webintents project and all the documentation for that will live > >> under webintents, which means we would then need to think about > >> standardisation and stewardship for the entire namespace. > > > > I don't see why. Just have a wiki page that people can list their > > verbs on and then point to their documentation. > > A wiki is not comparable to the controlled naming systems in the four > examples you give above. rel="" uses a wiki. Element names uses nothing at all; anyone can invent a new one, there's no central authority. > A wiki is a free for all that works great when there is no money > involved. A Web system involving 'share' along with images, audio, and > video will have money involved. I don't see why having money involved will make any difference. Could you elaborate? Why has this problem not occured with element names or rel="" values? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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