- From: Israel Hilerio <israelh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:02:13 +0000
- To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- CC: "ben turner (bent.mozilla@gmail.com)" <bent.mozilla@gmail.com>, "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>, Tom Bolds <thombo@microsoft.com>, Adam Herchenroether <aherchen@microsoft.com>, "Victor Ngo" <vicngo@microsoft.com>
On Friday, October 14, 2011 3:57 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Israel Hilerio <israelh@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:43 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Israel Hilerio > >> <israelh@microsoft.com> > >> wrote: > >> > On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:15 AM, Israel Hilerio wrote: > >> >> On Monday, October 10, 2011 9:46 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> >> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Israel Hilerio > >> >> > <israelh@microsoft.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > On Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:44 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> >> > >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> In both the Firefox and the Chrome implementation you can > >> >> > >> pass an empty array to IDBDatabase.transaction in order to > >> >> > >> create a transaction which has a scope that covers all > >> >> > >> objectStores in the database. I.e. you can do something like: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> trans = db.transaction([]); > >> >> > >> trans.objectStore(<any objectstore here>); > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> (Note that this is *not* a dynamic scoped transaction, it's > >> >> > >> still a static scope that covers the whole database). > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> In other words, these implementations treat the following two > >> >> > >> lines as > >> >> > >> equivalent: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> trans = db.transaction([]); > >> >> > >> trans = db.transaction(db.objectStoreNames); > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> This, however, is not specified behavior. According to the > >> >> > >> spec as it is now the transaction should be created with an empty > scope. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I suspect both Mozilla and Google implemented it this way > >> >> > >> because we had discussions about this syntax on the list. > >> >> > >> However apparently this syntax never made it into the spec. I > >> >> > >> don't > >> recall why. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I'm personally not a big fan of this syntax. My concern is > >> >> > >> that it makes it easier to create a widely scoped transaction > >> >> > >> which has less ability to run in parallel with other > >> >> > >> transactions, than to create a transaction with as narrow scope as > possible. > >> >> > >> And passing > >> >> > db.objectStoreNames is always possible. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> What do people think we should do? Should we add this > >> >> > >> behavior to the spec? Or are implementations willing to remove it? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> / Jonas > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Our implementation interprets the empty array as an empty scope. > >> >> > > We > >> >> > allow the transaction to be created but we throw a NOT_FOUND_ERR > >> >> > when trying to access any object stores. > >> >> > > I vote for not having this behavior :-). > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Israel, > >> >> > > >> >> > I just realized that I might have misinterpreted your response. > >> >> > > >> >> > Are you saying that you think that passing an empty-array should > >> >> > produce a transaction with an empty scope (like in IEs > >> >> > implementation and as described by the spec currently), or a > >> >> > transaction with every objectStore in scope (like in Firefox and > chrome)? > >> >> > > >> >> > / Jonas > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> We don't do it like FF or chrome. We create the transaction but > >> >> it has an empty scope transaction. Therefore, whenever you try to > >> >> access an object store we throw an exception. Based on what Hans > >> >> said, it seems we're all in agreement. > >> >> > >> >> Also, I like Ben's suggestion of not allowing these transactions > >> >> to be created in the first place and throwing an exception during > >> >> their > >> creation. > >> >> > >> >> Israel > >> >> > >> > > >> > What type of exception should we throw when trying to create a > >> > transaction > >> with an empty scope (NotFoundError, TypeError, or other)? > >> > >> Either of those would work for me. > >> > >> / Jonas > > > > We would like to go with NotFoundError. The reason is that an empty array > is still the correct type and therefore a TypeError would seem strange. > > Just noticed "InvalidAccessError" which seems like it could be a good fit too. > > / Jonas > I like that better! Seems to match closer the reason for the failure. Israel
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