- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:06:21 -0400
- To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the September 23 Widgets voice conference are available at the following and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webapps mail list before October 7 (the next Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved. -Art Barstow [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Widgets Voice Conference 23 Sep 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0986.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-irc Attendees Present Art_Barstow, Steven_Pemberton, Marcos_Caceres Regrets Chair Art Scribe Art Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Review and tweak agenda 2. [6]Announcements 3. [7]Packaging and Configuration spec 4. [8]Digital Signature spec 5. [9]Widget Interface spec 6. [10]URI Scheme spec 7. [11]view-mode Media Feature spec: 8. [12]Updates spec 9. [13]AOB * [14]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB <scribe> Scribe: Art Review and tweak agenda AB: I posted a draft agenda yesterday ( [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/09 86.html ). Any change requests? ... if Robin doesn't join us we will probably drop the URI scheme agenda item [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0986.html Announcements AB: the only announcement I have is a reminder September 28 is the deadline for comments re the Widget Interface LCWD. ... any other announcements? Packaging and Configuration spec AB: the P&C Implementation Report suggests we still need lots of data ( [16]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/imp-report/ ). Does anyone have anything new to report? ... Opera's impl is quite good ... but the next best impl is only about 50% ... do we think we can get data from BONDI/WAC? [16] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/imp-report/ MC: I'm not sure AB: I can follow-up with WAC's AC rep <scribe> ACTION: barstow contact WAC's AC rep about them supplying implementation data for the widget specs [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-580 - Contact WAC's AC rep about them supplying implementation data for the widget specs [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-09-30]. AB: the test suite is complete, right Marcos? MC: yes, I believe so ... but I haven't received any feedback from the I18N WG AB: did you give the I18N WG a deadline? MC: I'll check and follow-up with them AB: so 5 impls are roughly 50% and Opera's impl is 99% <scribe> ACTION: barstow contact Aplix's WebApps reps about providing data for widget spec implementation [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-581 - Contact Aplix's WebApps reps about providing data for widget spec implementation [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-09-30]. MC: Aplix's data has some bugs ... they need to re-run their tests ... need to talk to Paddy Byers <Marcos> i18n email: [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/07 49.html [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0749.html AB: can Wookie, in theory, implement 100% of the P&C test cases? MC: yes and I think Scott plans to run them AB: any news from GPAC guys? MC: no, not recently <scribe> ACTION: barstow contact GPAC implementation people re implemenation data for widget specs [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-582 - Contact GPAC implementation people re implemenation data for widget specs [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-09-30]. AB: have you heard anything from RIM? MC: no; would be good to follow-up <scribe> ACTION: barstow contact RIM's AC rep to see if they intend to join WebApps and/or provide implemenation data re widget specs [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Created ACTION-583 - Contact RIM's AC rep to see if they intend to join WebApps and/or provide implemenation data re widget specs [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-09-30]. AB: Marcos, will Opera be able to increase from 99% to 100%? MC: yes; it's probably just a bug that needs to be fixed and the test case re-run AB: anything else on P&C for today? MC: I think we need to republish this spec again? ... we have made several changes ... need to publish a new LC I think AB: yes, I agree we have made many changes <scribe> ACTION: barstow start a CfC to publish a new LCWD of the Packaing and Configuration spec [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-584 - Start a CfC to publish a new LCWD of the Packaing and Configuration spec [on Arthur Barstow - due 2010-09-30]. MC: what about timeframes? AB: the CfC period is 1 week ... and the LC comment period can be 3 weeks ... if I start a CfC today, it will end on Sept 30 and if agreed, we can publish a new LC on Oct 5 that would end on Oct 26 SP: the week after that would be TPAC ... and we could add it the agenda for TPAC meeting AB: we previously said we won't have a widgets meeting durig TPAC Digital Signature spec AB: the DigSig Implementation Report suggests we have no implementation at all ( [23]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/imp-report/ ) [23] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/imp-report/ MC: that's right we don't have any impl data yet ... we may need to regen the test cases because of an issue with one of the certs AB: until the test suite is updated and complete, I won't track people down re implemenation data ... anything else? MC: we will fix the test suite as soon as possible ... we need to get more review AB: I'll chase people after the test suite is updated Widget Interface spec AB: earlier today I created a comment tracking document for the September 7 LCWD ( [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-a pis-20100907/ ) ... to date, I think the only comment we received is from Addison ( [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/07 28.html ). My recollection we discussed providing support for the locale and that is something that is platform-dependent and as such, is not directly controllable by a strict TWI user agent. [24] http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-apis-20100907/ [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0728.html MC: we have looked into this comment ... must know the context and that can be different in the JS context AB: would it make sense to add a non-normative comment about this? MC: maybe ... I can ask him how this is handeled in other places e.g. HTML5 AB: is this something new version of ECMAScript is addressing? MC: not sure ... I will follow-up with Addison AB: re Implementation Report, it would be good to get 2 impls at 100% so we can progress to PR. Now we have Opera @ 105% and Wookie @ 95% ... the issue for Wookie is test case ta-za ... Is there a bug in this test case? MC: yes ... I will fix ta-za ... and I will remove the openURL test case ... expect an update later today ... and we will add some additional test cases too AB: so, we need everyone to re-run the test suite? MC: yes; we need everyone to re-run the test cases <scribe> ACTION: marcos after TWI test suite updated, send an annoucement to public-webapps [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-585 - After TWI test suite updated, send an annoucement to public-webapps [on Marcos Caceres - due 2010-09-30]. AB: now there are 16 test cases in the TWI test suite ... how many will there be after the upload? MC: about 50 test cases ... just checked, yes it is 50 test cases for TWI test suite URI Scheme spec AB: without Robin here, we will skip this item for today view-mode Media Feature spec: AB: what is the status of the view-mode Media Feature test suite ( [27]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/test-suite/ )? It is complete, right? [27] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/test-suite/ MC: yes, it is complete AB: I still have an action to ask CSS WG to review the test cases ( [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/576 ). Should we ask them to review all 16 test cases? [28] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/576 MC: yes, they should review all 16 test cases ... want to know if they think non-widget UA test cases are needed AB: any other instructions for the CSS WG? MC: I need to clean up the Intro section <Marcos> [29]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/test-suite/#product-ua [29] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/test-suite/#product-ua MC: they go the above and click on "Show all tests" AB: what is our deadline for comments? ... by TPAC? MC: we don't have any Ref Impls that I know of ... so, by TPAC would be fine ... we may want to add another mode in the future ... so there is a question about how to extend the spec? ... we could just create a new spec that defines the new mode AB: yes, that would work Updates spec AB: what is the status and plan for next publication ( [30]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ )? [30] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ MC: I think we are close to being ready to publish a new WD ... I just talked to Richard and we would like to publish a new WD as soon as possible AB: since this has been a reocurring agenda item, I'm OK with going forward with the publication ... any objections to publish a new WD of Updates spec on September 28? ... I support the publication MC: me too <Steven> +1 RESOLUTION: widgets group agrees to publish a new WD of the Updates spec on Sept 28 AB: who is the main person for pubreq issues? MC: both Richard and I AOB AB: next call will be in 2 weeks (October 7) if there are sufficient agenda items; otherwise later MC: has Nokia made any widget-related plans? AB: yes, I added Nokia impl to our Impl wiki: [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetImplementation#Widget_ Packaging_and_Configuration_.28P.26C.29 [31] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetImplementation#Widget_Packaging_and_Configuration_.28P.26C.29 MC: can they provide data for our Implemenation Reports AB: yes, I don't see why not but the announced widget platform (Qt Web Runtime) is an "alpha" release ... thus I don't know how stable or complete the impl is ... given our call frequency is down, we will use CfC's via e-mail if/when necessary ... anything else? ... Meeting Adjourned Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: barstow contact Aplix's WebApps reps about providing data for widget spec implementation [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: barstow contact GPAC implementation people re implemenation data for widget specs [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: barstow contact RIM's AC rep to see if they intend to join WebApps and/or provide implemenation data re widget specs [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: barstow contact WAC's AC rep about them supplying implementation data for the widget specs [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: barstow start a CfC to publish a new LCWD of the Packaing and Configuration spec [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: marcos after TWI test suite updated, send an annoucement to public-webapps [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/23-wam-minutes.html#action06] [End of minutes]
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