- From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:09:30 -0400
- To: public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
The draft minutes from the August 5 Widgets voice conference are available at the following and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-minutes.html WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webapps mail list before August 12 (the next Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved. -Art Barstow [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Widgets Voice Conference 05 Aug 2010 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-irc Attendees Present Art, Marcos, Josh Regrets Frederick, Kenneth, Robin Chair Art Scribe Art Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Review and tweak agenda 2. [5]Announcements 3. [6]Packaging and Configuration spec 4. [7]Widget Interface spec 5. [8]AOB * [9]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB <scribe> Scribe: Art Review and tweak agenda AB: the draft agenda was posted a few days ago: ( [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/03 44.html ). Any change requests? [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0344.html MC: no Announcements AB: any short announcements? [ none ] Packaging and Configuration spec AB: Marcos uploaded several I18N test cases to the P&C test repository ( [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/01 38.html ). ... how many I18N tests have been uploaded and are there any more? [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0138.html MC: we uploaded about 170 and have a few more ... we also need to remove some redundancies AB: I counted about 277 last week for all of P&C MC: that sounds about right ... don't expect any more AB: what about review of the I18N tests? MC: Lachlan and one other guy at Opera reviewed them ... and I reviewed them too ... we still need to get review by the I18N WG AB: agree we should ask I18N WG for comments ... but we should wait until we are "done" MC: Hari Kumar will notify me when the tests are ready for I18N WG comments <scribe> ACTION: Marcos notify the I18N Core WG about the I18N test cases and ask them for comments [recorded in [12]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-567 - Notify the I18N Core WG about the I18N test cases and ask them for comments [on Marcos Caceres - due 2010-08-12]. AB: Marcos also uploaded several viewmode attribute parsing test cases ( [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/00 96.html ). [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0096.html MC: yes, those test fill a hole we had in our test suite AB: as a result of these new test cases, none of the P&C implementations is even at 50% compliance ( [14]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/imp-report/ ). ... a question is whether or not the I18N support is "optional" or not [14] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/imp-report/ MC: no they really aren't because the parsing algorithms are now directly included in the spec ... whereas before when we pointed to the ITS spec the algorithms were external ... These new test cases are important and Lachlan did a very thorough job AB: so the UA must adhere to the syntax and parsing constraints but the UA doesn't really have any requirements on how to display internationalized attributes ... is this right? MC: yes, that's right ... how the UA displays the internationalized strings is platform specific AB: we now need to get at least 2 implementations that can pass all of the test suites ... Issue-117 ( [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/117 ) "In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify in the spec that dir attribute does not apply to attributes that are IRIs, Numeric, Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects human readable strings.". ... to address this issue, I believe Marcos already updated the spec with some "editorial" fix several weeks ago. Is this correct Marcos? [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/117 MC: yes, I have already uploaded the fixes ... this required creating the "displayable attribute" ... so this issue can be closed AB: so this was editorial, right? MC: yes, definitely - it did not affect the processing AB: OK, would then please close this issue Marcos? MC: yes, I just closed it. Widget Interface spec AB: Issue-116 ( [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/116 ) "Need to flesh out the security considerations for the openURL method in the Widget Interface spec" is blocking advancement of this spec to Proposed Recommenation. ... Marcos proposed openURL be removed. If that is done, what is there an alternate way a developer can get similar functionality? [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/116 MC: I can take an action to define some mechanism AB: can you submit a proposal to the list? MC: yes, I can do that <scribe> ACTION: Marcos create an alternative mechanism for openURL and send it to the mail list [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-568 - Create an alternative mechanism for openURL and send it to the mail list [on Marcos Caceres - due 2010-08-12]. MC: I also looked at removing the Web IDL ref ... it is a lot more than difficult than I would have guessed ... and even if we do that, we still have HTML and Web Storage refs AB: given those dependencies, I don't think it make sense to remove the Web IDL ref MC: agreed AB: after the group discusses your openURL alternate proposal, then we can get formal consensus on removing openURL or not ... if the group accepts this change, the TWI spec will need to go back to LCWD ... but since we already have more than 2 implementations that pass the TWI test suite, ... we can skip another CR and go straight to PR ... anything else on the TWI spec for today? MC: no AOB <timeless> oh <timeless> perhaps action to look at mozilla's package thing <timeless> marcos, can you drop in a link MC: I'm wondering if we should put some effort into the old P&C conformance spec ... we could publish it again AB: could it be published as an informative WG Note JS: It is OK with me if openURL is removed ... I agree decision on Web IDL <Marcos> [18]http://www.mail-archive.com/whatwg@lists.whatwg.org/msg22629.htm l [18] http://www.mail-archive.com/whatwg@lists.whatwg.org/msg22629.html JS: there was some discussion about web app packging on WHAT WG list this week ... should review this email ... don't think we want them to reinvent the wheels we created in WebApps AB: thanks for the headsup MC: the BONDI SDK implemented a conformance checker AB: agree that functionality could be useful for Widget developers MC: we have some tests for WARP spec AB: that's great MC: we updated the template for test suite generation <Marcos> [19]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/test-suite/ [19] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/test-suite/ MC: we are working on the dig sig tests AB: re, next call, I think we need Robin MC: agree AB: tentatively schedule a call for next week but only if we can get Robin ... it would be good to get that to Candidate as soon as possible ... meeting adjourned Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Marcos create an alternative mechanism for openURL and send it to the mail list [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Marcos notify the I18N Core WG about the I18N test cases and ask them for comments [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/05-wam-minutes.html#action01] [End of minutes]
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