- From: Jeremy Orlow <jorlow@chromium.org>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:40:05 +0100
- To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Cc: Webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTiniO2yVSkFu7-GhpN0pxCV8whZT9jJOpWF3cZC0@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jorlow@chromium.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jorlow@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> > I think determinism is most important for the reasons you cited. I > >> > think > >> > advanced, performance concerned apps could deal with either semantics > >> > you > >> > mentioned, so the key would be to pick whatever is best for the normal > >> > case. > >> > I'm leaning towards thinking firing in order is the best way to go > >> > because > >> > it's the most intuitive/easiest to understand, but I don't feel > strongly > >> > about anything other than being deterministic. > >> > >> I definitely agree that firing in request order is the simplest, both > >> from an implementation and usage point of view. However my concern is > >> that we'd lose most of the performance benefits that cursors provide > >> if we use that solution. > >> > >> What do you mean with "apps could deal with either semantics"? You > >> mean that they could deal with the cursor case by simply being slower, > >> or do you mean that they could work around the performance hit > >> somehow? > > > > Hm. I was thinking they could save the value, call continue, then do > work > > on it, but that'd of course only defer the slowdown for one iteration. > So I > > guess they'd have to store up a bunch of data and then make calls on it. > > Indeed which could be bad for memory footprint. > > > Of course, they'll run into all of these same issues with the sync API > since > > things are of course done in order. So maybe trying to optimize this > > specific case for just the async API is silly? > > I honestly haven't looked at the sync API. But yes, I assume that it > will in general have to serialize all calls into the database and thus > generally not be as performant. I don't think that is a good reason to > make the async API slower too though. > > But it's entirely possible that I'm overly concerned about cursor > performance in general though. I won't argue too strongly that we need > to prioritize cursor callback events until I've seen some numbers. If > we want to simply define that callbacks fire in request order for now > then that is fine with me. > Yeah, I think we should get some hard numbers and think carefully about this before we make things even more complicated/nuanced. J
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