- From: Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:06:12 +1000
- To: Arve Bersvendsen <arveb@opera.com>
- Cc: "Priestley, Mark, VF-Group" <Mark.Priestley@vodafone.com>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
Hi Mark, Arve, I've renamed currentMode to viewMode in the API spec. viewMode represents the current view mode of the widget. I would like to hear more use cases for the <modes> element before adding it to the spec. Kind regards, Marcos 2009/1/22 Arve Bersvendsen <arveb@opera.com>: > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:02 +0100, Priestley, Mark, VF-Group <Mark.Priestley@vodafone.com> wrote: > >> Hi Arve, >> >> Thanks for your feedback - I'm glad our thinking is along similar lines. >> Some responses to your comments below. > > Some responses below. Note that I have cut parts to which I have no direct answer yet. > >>> Application mode is required outside of a mobile context, to >>> differentiate between chromeless (e.g. Opera >>> Widgets/Dashboard/etc) and widgets with OS Chrome (e.g. the >>> Adobe AIR view state model) >>> >> >> [MP] We are of course fine with an application mode being defined, we >> just >> don't have an opinion on what it should be... From your description we >> assume it will be as per the floating mode but with chrome? > > There are some expected differences in behavior. > > 1. Floating widgets are expected to be draggable from any area of the widget, except where defined by [CSS] to not be draggable. 'Application' Widgets are not expected to exhibit this behavior. > 2. Application widgets are expected to be user-resizable, and so authors cannot rely on the widget having any particular viewport size. > > This makes them behave much more like 'fullscreen' in a mobile context, or like a regular web page in a browser. > >>>> a.)onModeChange - an event triggered when the widget >>> >>> transitions to a >>>> >>>> new mode; >>> >>> It needs to be specified _when_ this event is triggered. Is it >>> prior to the mode switch taking place? Is it a DOM event, or >>> a callback. Is it cancellable? >> >> [MP] We think that this should be a DOM event that takes place after the >> switch of modes. Not cancellable. > > The downside to letting this happen after the mode switch, is that the widget might in this callback want to >>>> >>>> a.) Only one floating mode widget can have focus. The widget with >>>> focus must have the highest z-index; >>> >>> This is in direct conflict with Window behavior on Unix/Linux >>> system, where a window can have a lower z-index than other >>> windows, and still be focused. It is also in conflict with >>> Opera's current desktop widget implementation, where it is >>> possible to push widgets to stick to the desktop and as such >>> be overlaid by other windows. >>> >> [MP] Good points - so we could instead say something like the last >> widget that the user interacted with >> has focus? Would that work? > > I'm not really sure there is a need to say anything really - because we'd be well into the domain of specifying interaction requirements and behavior of operating systems. > > -- > Arve Bersvendsen > > Developer, Opera Software ASA, http://www.opera.com/ > > > > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au
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