- From: SUZANNE Benoit RD-SIRP-ISS <benoit.suzanne@orange-ftgroup.com>
- Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:45:27 +0200
- To: <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <C4E41B48.14DB5%benoit.suzanne@orange-ftgroup.com>
I agree with you comments, and Išve just added a feedback to the R27 discussion > > Benoit Suzanne > Widget Factory Project Manager - Orange Labs - FT/RD/SIRP/SOL/SLAM > t. +33 (0)145 298 198 - m. +33 (0)680 287 553 > benoit.suzanne@orange-ftgroup.com > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Benoit, > Thank you for taking the time to prepare a detailed review. I think I > was able to address all your comments, except for the one about "R27. > Widget State Change Events". It would be great if you could help > clarify what you want me to do there. Please see below for detailed > description of the changes I made. > > Please let me know if you are satisfied with the responses I've have > given below or if you would like any further clarification. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:52 AM, SUZANNE Benoit RD-SIRP-ISS > <benoit.suzanne@orange-ftgroup.com> wrote: >> Marcos, >> Here are my comments on the Requirements (W3C Working Draft 23 June 2008) >> >> >>> 1. Introduction >>> [...] This document does not address the requirements of "web widgets", >>> such as iGoogle Gadgets or Windows Live Gadgets. >> I Think we can add a wording at the end of the sentense to read: "..., >> although this version of the widget specification, the Working group will >> address the web widget in the next iteration of the widgets specifications." > > Although I personally agree, I don't think we have reached a > resolution as a working group about what features should be included > in future versions of the Widgets specification. I don't want to > prematurely commit us to feature which we may not end up implementing > in the future. If anything, this should go into a "Widgets 2.0 > Requirements" document. It might be good to prepare such a document > once this one reaches CR. > >>> 3. Design Goals >>> Longevity: ... >> I think in this chapter we should talk about the versioning of a widget. I'm >> not sure it should be presented as a specific item, or if it can be added >> inside the logevity section in relation to the longevity of the content >> provided and related updates it will need over time. > > I see what you are saying, but I think mentioning versioning is better > served in the "Web and offline distribution" section. I've added the > following text: > > "A conforming specification needs to deal with cases where an > end-user acquires a widget resource over HTTP or via some other non > HTTP-based (offline) means, such as a local file system, Bluetooth or > a Multimedia Message Service. In addition, a conforming specification > needs to provide a means by which widgets can be updated when a new or > different version of a widget becomes available. It must be possible > to perform updates from either an online or offline source. " > >>> R7. Internationalization Guidelines >>> Rationale: [...] (e.g. 'resources/en/' for all English content, >>> 'resources/en-au/' for further localized Australian-English content, and so >>> on). >> Insert an "and" in between the 2 english example to stress the need to allow >> both > > Done. > >>>R15 & R16 >> Is there a reason why they should not be "must" instead of "should"? > > I've changed R15 to a must, as we have already spec'd the <license> > element. We are still undecided about rendering dimensions (R16). > >>> R19. Iconic Representations >>> Rationale: [...] For example, an a small graphic of a calendar may >>> represent a calendar widget. >> "an a" should be corrected > > Fixed. > >> But I propose to add the following after: "And a small graphic of today's >> calendar page may also represent this same calendar widget" > > I changed the text to read: "For example, a small graphic of a > calendar showing today's date may represent a calendar widget." This > is to incorporate your suggested text and to imply that the graphic > may change dynamically (in accordance with R34 - Icon API). > >>> R27. Widget State Change Events >> This requirement must be available both ways, you should be able to capture >> the change of state when it happens, but you should also be able as an >> author to force the state change as well. I propose the following text: >> "A conforming specification must also allow the author to programmatically >> change the state of the widget to allow a change in the view of the >> instantiated widget." > > I'm not sure this is the right place for this. I think this should be > in R24. Instantiated Widget API. However, I'm not sure that the > proposed text covers the actual requirement. I wanted to put something > like you suggested into R24: "The API SHOULD also also allow authors > to programmatically change the visual state of a widget", but I'm not > sure what that means. Can you please provide an example or a use case? I agree that this technically, allowing a dev to change the widget state, falls under R24. But I wonder if this specific functionality should be stated. > >>> R28. Network State Change Events >> In the specific case of a network drop, the author will need to know when >> the network works again, in order to not have to code a checking loop, it is >> important to put together a mechanism whereby it's the widget engine that >> wakes up the widget when the network is back on. >> What do you think? > > Agreed. Does the way the requirement has been rewritten in regards to > events address the looping issue?: > > "A conforming specification MUST specify a means that allows authors > to check if the widget resource is connected to the network. A > conforming specification MUST define the scope of the term "network" > and MUST specify a means by which connection and disconnection events > can be captured by an author through script. A conforming > specification MUST NOT guarantee event delivery, as there may be cases > where a device is running low on power and can not afford to deliver > them." > > >>> R29. Modal Priority >>> [...] (or any of its windows) should to categorize itself >> "should to..." should be corrected > > Fixed. > >>> 4.5 User Agents >>> R39. End-user Declared Proxy >>> A conforming specification should recommend that widget user agents allow >>> end-users to explicitly input a proxy server through which all HTTP-based >>> request are made. >> This requirement should include at the end ", or in case of availability, >> that the system wide proxy is used." >> This requirement should be a "Must" > > Using your text as a guide, I reworded the requirement as: > > "A conforming specification MUST recommend that widget user agents > allow end-users to explicitly select a proxy server through which all > HTTP-based request are made. In the case where a default proxy has > been defined for the operating system, a conforming specification MUST > recommend that widget user agents find and make use of any default > proxy exposed by the operating system. " > > I also renamed R39 to "Proxy Support" > >>>R40. Automatic Updates >> This requirement should be a "Must" > > fixed. > >>>R41. Persistent Storage of Preferences >>> A conforming specification must recommend that a widget user agent >>> implement a means to persistently store user preferences for each >>> instantiated widget. >> The following should be added after the first sentence: "This Storage >> mechanism must allow to keep the preferences after restart of the widget or >> on the restart of the user agent. > > Ok, the requirement now reads: > > "A conforming specification MUST recommend that a widget user agent > implement a means to persistently store user preferences for each > instantiated widget. A widget user agent MUST persistently retain a > widget's preference in the case where a widget is re-instantiated or > the widget user agent is restarted." > >>> Rationale: To allow widgets to be closed and re-instantiated without the >>> end-user having reset the preferences for an instantiated widget. For >>> example, when using a weather widget, the end-user will want to store the >>> preferred location for weather information, and not be asked to input that >>> information again every time the widget is re-instantiated. >> And again at the end of this sentence: "The same would apply if the user has >> setup 2 instances of the same widget and would like to view 2 different >> cities. After closing the widgets, open 2 instances of this weather widget >> would automatically pick up the 2 pre-set cities. > > Ok, included your example by modified the text. Here is the rewrite: > > "To allow widgets to be closed and re-instantiated without the > end-user having to reset the preferences for an instantiated widget. > For example, when using a weather widget, the end-user will want to > store the preferred location for weather information, and not be asked > to input that information again every time the widget is > re-instantiated. The same would apply if the user has instantiated two > instances of the same widget and would like to see the weather > forecast for two different cities (e.g., Paris and Sydney). When the > widgets are re-instantiated, the corresponding weather information > would be downloaded to match each widget's city preference." > > >>> R41 and R42 >> I would switch them around so that the notion of the multiple instance can >> be used in the Preference Storage Requirement. > > Good point. Fixed. > >>> R44. Runtime Security Exceptions >> A conforming specification must specify runtime exceptions for when the API >> attempts to perform an action it it not authorized to perform. >> Correct "it it" > > fixed. > > > -- > Marcos Caceres > http://datadriven.com.au > -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au
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