- From: Martin Lasak <notifications@github.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 23:09:45 -0700
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> Note that HTTP provides no guarantee that chunks are preserved end-to-end; furthermore, many (most?) HTTP APIs don't guarantee that chunk delineation is exposed accurately. Yes that's true and exactly for this reason it is so incredibly difficult to calculate throughput on receiver side (in JavaScript app logic). And surprisingly accurate e2e chunk preservation is not needed here (and not what we are asking for), we just suggest that one should be able to add meta information at the end of running chunked transfer transmission as the HTTP spec allows. Please let me provide you a simple example for clarification why trailers would be helpful. Video streams very often with 30 frames per second. So ideally every 33 milliseconds one frame is produced and send to the client in form of e.g. 2 seconds long video segments. The major problem is that the production (aka idle) time and transmission time is perceived jointly at client. On server we know the timestamp when the frame was sent. On client we know the timestamp when the frame was received. So, to calculate the e2e throughput correctly we need this distributed timestamp information somehow while keeping the requests stateless(!). Throughput information is needed for adaptive bitrate algorithms to work properly and to improve the viewer experience. Regarding the comment by @davidben > looking at timing and when bytes come out of the stream this is the way we currently go and mostly fail to calculate throughput correctly. What you will get is more or less that network throughput equals the streamed video bitrate. Please elaborate a bit more on this if we missed your point but pls think of the existence of the idle times -> chunks are NOT send immediately one after another, there are production/idle times between them. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/981#issuecomment-861202289
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