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- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:41:49 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18669 --- Comment #38 from Daniel Buchner <danieljb2@gmail.com> --- - What this solves - * Provides for subset of accessibility issues that fit specially crafted usage assumptions with short-term relevance - which can also be solved via Brian Kardell's proposal in Comment 29, of optional, source-included fallback content. - Where it falls down - * Forces two interfaces on developers that fork due to a hard prohibition of a single feature, that may or may not even apply. * Legacy UAs do not allow access to Shadow DOM and other things that are the probable reason developers would even want to extend native elements, thus the likelihood that <input type="text" is="x-super-input" /> will show up in legacy UAs is slim - it's much more likely you will see this: <x-supertext> { DEFAULT CONTENT INCLUDES AN <INPUT> } </x-supertext> * If linked documents are parsed, this whole issue goes away in the medium-to-long term as Web Component implementation proliferates, leaving us with a fractured, sub-optimal API, and years and years of fist-shaking over what was decided back in the ol' days (36 months ago) * Polyfills become much harder * Devs are required to always think in two modes, extend vs non-extend, which has significant thought and code-writing overhead (hmm...do I need to querySelector for select[is="x-foo"], or just x-foo?) * Raises the fundamental barrier to entry for coders new to the web platform and its interface * Turns source viewing into a fun game of "Where's Web Component Waldo?" * Doesn't for one second prevent the far better solution of optionally including fallback content within the tag itself - this will be used a lot when developers take stock of their options and square them with code-reality. * Much of the concern is organically avoided by developers who will self-select use of decorators for cases where is="" would have them do <select is="x-foo"> * Decorators can, at some point, include transient method/accessor hooks while active on an element - another option that would render is="" obsolete. --- I feel this hybrid proposal is unnecessary, based on faulty assumptions of the rate of native-element-inheriting tag use in legacy UAs, and ill-concieved, based on the steady feedback over the past few months from developers both inside and outside Mozilla. In my opinion, and the opinion of developers who have/will use this feature, this is the wrong course of action. A petition for compromise based on a reality-driven assessment of likely rates of developer usage/use-cases: Remove the soon-to-be-useless prohibition on extending native elements from #2, the true custom tag syntax. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the QA Contact for the bug.
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