- From: Doug Schepers <doug.schepers@vectoreal.com>
- Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:19:22 -0500
- To: <public-webapi@w3.org>
- Cc: <public-cdf@w3.org>
Hi- I have a common and important use-case, but after reading through the CDF and WICD specs, I couldn't see how this is covered. It may be that this is something that should be handled by WebAPI (in which case I'm happy to own it), but it should definitely be coordinated with CDF. This is notable, since CDF is in LC. To be concrete, I have a single HTML document with 2 references to the same SVG file. Here is a pseudocode example (please ignore or improve syntax): report.html <html ...> <object id="income" data="chart.svg" ...> <object id="expenses" data="chart.svg" ...> <script ...> function A() { income.Z( value ); ...} function B() { expenses.Z( value ); ...} function C() {...} </script> </html> chart.svg <svg ...> <rect onclick="Y()" ... /> <script ...> top.Z = Z; function Z( value ) {...} function Y() { top.C(); ...} </script> </svg> There are three useful ways which I would like to see these independent script blocks interacting: 1) HTML -> discrete SVG instance 2) discrete SVG instance -> HTML 3) discrete SVG instance -> discrete SVG instance For (1), the HTML should be able to get a reference to a specific instantiation of the SVG (the "data" for one particular <object> element), and make a method call to that particular instance (so, I could send values to the chart representing either "income" or "expenses"). For (2), I should be able to call a method, C, in the host document (in this case, the HTML parent doc, "report.html"). Further, the particular instance that made the method call should be accessible in the API of the call, i.e. an object "caller" that contains both the name of the function that called the current function, and the element reference of the instance. In the above example, if function Y in the "expenses" object instance called function C in the host document "report.html", inside function C, there would be a "caller" property something like this: caller.function = function Y(); caller.instance = [object HTMLObject] > id="expenses"; This is necessary since I would want to know if the user clicked on a bar in "income" or "expenses" in order to take the correct action in the host document. Ideally, since both "parent" and "top" are a bit overloaded in terms of functionality, the scope resolution operator inside an instance document would actually be something like "host" (so "host.C()" would reach function C in the HTML document); similarly, you could have different terminology for the embedded file, such as "instance". There should also be graceful and defined behavior for what happens when "chart.svg" is encountered outside of its host document, such that "host.C()" could not be resolved. (3) is more of an edge use-case, and would be harder to define outside of the context or a host document, so there might merely be a bridge or routing function in the HTML document, e.g. "function D( parameters ){ expenses.X( parameters ); }" or "function D = expenses.X". This would not require any special definition, but it would be useful as an informative note to describe how this can be done. There are other scenarios that come to mind (e.g. SVG inside of SVG, HTML inside of SVG), so any formalized solution should keep those in mind, but SVG inside of HTML is really the most common scenario, I think. For the record, I can currently get this working in FF native and IE+ASV3, for the record, although it's a bit krufty and klugey and browser-specific. But I don't want this functionality to go away, or be overlooked and undefined, since I think it is of key importance. Please advise me on the best way to get this behavior specified and standardized quickly. Regards- Doug doug.schepers@vectoreal.com www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions.
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