- From: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:55:02 -0500
- To: public-web-perf <public-web-perf@w3.org>
Available at
http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webperf-minutes.html
Summary:
- We needs additional security review before remove "navigation"
requirement from NEL
- PerformanceObservers proposal looks good but needs refinement on list
- User Timing can have negative duration
- Resource Timing/User Timing will get exposed to Service Workers
- Server Timing to be published as FPWD
- Editors are allowed to update Working Drafts at will, as long as they
notify public-web-perf@w3.org of the update
Text version:
Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
11 Feb 2015
Attendees
Present
Plh, Yoav, Ilya, Todd
Regrets
Eli
Chair
plh
Scribe
plh
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]NEL
2. [4]PerformanceObservers
3. [5]Server TIming
4. [6]User Timing
5. [7]nav timing 2
6. [8]RAF next steps
7. [9]Automatic publishing
8. [10]Service Workers support for
window.performance/resourcetiming/usertiming
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 11 February 2015
NEL
Ilya: I'm making progress on feedback
... looking for feedback on removing navigation
... embedded case is missing
... if we remove navigation restriction, it becomes pretty
simple
Yoav: I think the use case is useful
... concern is security
... should we expose it?
... need to get security folks involved
Ilya: we wouldn't be reporting info that would have been
reported if it had been successful
... but third party reports are more problematic
... third.com has a resource, someone tries to load on a
different site. That should be fine to report
Yoav: notifying the embedder might be problematic
Ilya: right. maybe opt-in policy
Todd: still thinking it through
Tobin: do we have an idea of the clear scenarios?
Ilya: no, we have an example section
... but we could add it
... that's good idea
... I'll follow with a new draft
PerformanceObservers
Plh: changing the type of PerformanceEntryList is problematic
... right now, it's an array
... forEach, map, filter, etc
... we would remove those functions otherwise
interface PerformanceEntryList {
getter PerformanceEntry item(unsigned long index);
readonly attribute unsigned long length;
PerformanceEntryList getEntriesByName(name);
}
Plh: I'll follow up on the list
... otherwise, proposal looks fine
Tobin: I like the idea
... better object model for mass events
... will keep thinking about it
??: in general, high level is looking good
Server Timing
Yoav: looks good
... was wondering about the possibility of allocating more
... but other than that, it's fine
... looks useful as well
... why 150 limit?
Ilya: copied from resource timing
... we could change it
Yoav: why not start higher?
[...]
Yoav: ok, makes sense
Resolved: Server Timing is published as FPWD
User Timing
Plh: can't we remove SYNTAX_ERR limitation?
Ilya: don't see any reason why not
Plh: negative duration restriction...
[back and forth around whether negative values are useful]
??: given the scenario in the email, it sounds legitimate
Todd: I'll test it in IE
nav timing 2
plh: Why can't we get
performance.getEntriesByType("navigation") implemented?
<scribe> ACTION: plh to send an email about what's new in
navtiming2 [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webperf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-150 - Send an email about what's new
in navtiming2 [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2015-02-18].
RAF next steps
Ilya: we also redirect handling for R and NT
<scribe> ACTION: plh to send an email on RAF [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webperf-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-151 - Send an email on raf [on
Philippe Le Hegaret - due 2015-02-18].
Automatic publishing
plh: can we allow editors to publish in /TR if the editor is
willing to send email to the list?
Resolved: Editors are allowed to update WD in /TR
Service Workers support for
window.performance/resourcetiming/usertiming
Ilya: service workers wants to have access to
window.performance, RT and UT
... needs to update the spec to not specifically call out
window
??: could that be addressed by performance observers?
Ilya: that's different
... I'll take a look at it
<scribe> ACTION: plh to make it clear that duration can be
negative in UT [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webperf-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-152 - Make it clear that duration can
be negative in ut [on Philippe Le Hegaret - due 2015-02-18].
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