Re: navigationStart in NavigationTiming

I see. Given that the specification is about "navigations" e.g. see the
abstract or the processing model, do we then need to define anything for
pages that are only "created"? It appears we will need to make a bunch of
updates to the spec to cover the case of a document that is not navigated
to and just "created". For example, we need to update the processing model,
and we need to update the navigation type (
http://www.w3.org/TR/navigation-timing/#performancenavigation).

Is it better to say in a non-normative section that performance.timing and
performance.navigation are undefined for "about:blank"?

Arvind


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu> wrote:

> On 5/1/13 5:48 PM, Arvind Jain wrote:
>
>> If there is no previous document and the current
>> document is "about:blank", this attribute must return the time when the
>> document was created.
>>
>
> I don't think we need the "the current document is 'about:blank'" bit,
> even.  Any case when there is no previous document means the document is
> "about:blank".
>
>
>  I actually feel it's better to just not mention the case of "there is no
>> previous document" and current document = about:blank.
>>
>
> If we don't mention it, what defines the behavior?
>
>
>  Please also look at the processing model for navigation here:
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/**browsers.html#navigate<http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/browsers.html#navigate>- it simply assumes
>> there is a previous document (Step 9)
>>
>
> When _navigating_ there is a previous document in all cases.  But the
> initial about:blank is not navigated to; it's just created.  But it has a
> performance.timing, and we need to define what the values in that are.  We
> can define them to be creation time, or all 0, or whatever, but we need to
> define them.
>
>
>  What would be the ideal definition of these 3 attributes according to you?
>>
>
> I don't actually have a strong opinion about how we should define the
> behavior of performance.timing for the initial about:blank.  It just needs
> to be defined.
>
> -Boris
>
>