Re: iBeacon + LDP or ie: SoLiD

 I think i missed a few aspects.

the idea is that much like purchasing a product pre-web, people don't get
tied into a particular service-provider as a result of their purchase of
that product. maybe utopian, yet certainly aspirational. game has changed
somewhat since the evolution of Web 2.0 in building beyond social-network
silos to that of A.I enabled social-network silos for economic benefits.

Seems a bit beyond the context of democracy as we know, internationally, it
IMHO.

On Mon, 23 May 2016 at 23:12 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> i think the answer is somewhat explained here[1] with particular note to
> Web Bluetooth [2], but the fundamental question is whether the data -
> fundamentally need to be transmitted to google servers?
>
> or can they be private and/or decentralised without necessitating access
> by google A.I. networked capabilities...
>
> Tim.H.
>
> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyfy7AdPk2g
> [2] https://www.w3.org/community/web-bluetooth/
>
>
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 at 22:46 Kis, Zoltan <zoltan.kis@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it is obvious that the Physical Web concept, and beacons in
>> general, are already in scope of the WoT IG, as Dave described.
>>
>> The Physical Web concept leaves the data model open, and provides means
>> for discovery, retrieve, update, and notify, but not for remote creation
>> and deletion of things (or resources in OCF terminology). Attached 2 slides
>> I made out of this.
>>
>> For instance, with the Physical Web one could use BLE services and
>> characteristics:
>> https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/services/Pages/ServicesHome.aspx
>>
>> https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/characteristics/Pages/CharacteristicsHome.aspx
>> or other, proprietary or standardized data models.
>>
>> Anyone can well implement their own Physical Web.
>>
>> I agree with Dave that the most important concept to deal with here (in
>> relation to discovery+CRUDN) is that of user agents.
>>
>> Do I understand right that Timothy you'd like to add support for control
>> on what things (services) can be discovered and accessed by a given device
>> identity + capabilities + permissions + interests, sort of "service
>> agents", for instance things/resource directories?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Zoltan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Adrian Hope-Bailie <
>> adrian@hopebailie.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Check out the Physical Web project
>>> http://google.github.io/physical-web/
>>>
>>> On 22 May 2016 at 11:11, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking into iBeacon technology and found the google offering [1]
>>>> alongside the apple version.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have the infrastructure owned by the property owner and use
>>>> linked-data more generically (rather than via service provider).  Any
>>>> suggested links for existing solutions that are less service-provider /
>>>> vendor tied?
>>>>
>>>> I also found the paypal beacon [2] which also looked interesting,
>>>> pondering whether bluetooth ble's might be usable as a 2-part hardware
>>>> token that people might carry on their keychains (amongst the many other
>>>> uses)...
>>>>
>>>> Tim.H.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/google/eddystone
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://blog.verifone.com/apple-ibeacon-paypal-beacon-and-ble-what-does-it-all-mean/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>