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Re: [W3C Webmob] Call Tomorrow (19th March) Cancelled

From: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L <bs3131@att.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:57:49 +0000
To: "Cavigioli, Chris" <chris.cavigioli@intel.com>
CC: Natasha Rooney <nrooney@gsma.com>, W3C Webmob Public <public-web-mobile@w3.org>
Message-ID: <A9AC955D-46D4-41CE-9374-4BB5CC4B55CB@att.com>
GCF and PTCRB have their place for more fundamentally mobile device certification aspects, but in W3C we were trying to achieve a more web-centric testing evolution, i.e. "native" to the development of the web, the collaborative approach in W3C, and ingrained into the W3C spec development process. Certification program use of the test framework and assets were always and still are considered a value-added opportunity beyond the value that this vision had for improving the robustness of the web, and developer confidence in it.

We have ongoing programs on OMA for example, where the most widely used (historically, at least) mobile web browsing test suite (Browsing 2.4), is being updated for synergy with the current design of the W3C test framework and new features in HTML5, CSS3, etc. The goal of that, as I would recommend for other testing programs, is convergence at least in methodology and test focus. The same goes for other domains e.g. Web & TV in which for example the HbbTV testing program experience should provide valuable best practices and test focus input to W3C, along with bugzilla reports.

Thanks,
Bryan Sullivan | Service Standards | AT&T

On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:32 PM, "Cavigioli, Chris" <chris.cavigioli@intel.com<mailto:chris.cavigioli@intel.com>> wrote:

Hi Bryan,
Wouldnít testing be best managed by GCF / PTCRB?   Those groups were set up by the pre-cursor to GSMA (GSM MoU Assoc) together with an OEM manufacturing association (ECTEL TMS) specifically to address the shortcomings of 3GPP-defining testing and each operator having their own private testing regimes.

Chris Cavigioli
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From: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L [mailto:bs3131@att.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:12 PM
To: 'Natasha Rooney'; 'W3C Webmob Public'
Subject: RE: [W3C Webmob] Call Tomorrow (19th March) Cancelled

Iíd like to put on the table the concern that the overall testing program at W3C has evaporated, or at least retreated into github land with no overall plan, organization, or goals. This is very concerning given our continued attempts to promote the value of W3Cís program to improve web testing beyond the piecemeal, inconsistent, one-and-done efforts of the past. Though W3C did not in 2013 receive the monetary sponsors it sought, thatís no reason to abandon organized efforts to meet the requirements that still exist on the wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/Testing. I would like to see WebMob, Web&TV, and other domain-specific groups that put substantial effort into prioritizing and helping to inspire the establishment of the W3C testing program, to restart the publicly visible (e.g. W3C wiki-based) and structured program oriented toward achieving those earlier goals.

Otherwise, we are left to take what we can get Ė which is basically the web testing of the past, and not inspiring/useful to developers or service providers that want to see the web mature as a reliable platform.

Thanks,
Bryan Sullivan

From: Natasha Rooney [mailto:nrooney@gsma.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:37 PM
To: W3C Webmob Public
Subject: [W3C Webmob] Call Tomorrow (19th March) Cancelled

Hi all!

We were supposed to have a call tomorrow at 3pm GMT. Sadly both Marcos and
I are unavailable so we have decided to push the call one week in the
future and hold it next Wednesday 26th March! The call will be at the same
time and I will send out an agenda on Monday next week.

If you have any topics you wish to raise on the call please let me know!
For now we have a collection of topics including Payments Use Cases,
Installable WebApps, Network Information API, Identity and some updates on
the W3C workshops. More topics are always welcome!

Thanks!

Natasha

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