- From: Appelquist Daniel (UK) <Daniel.Appelquist@telefonica.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:08:02 +0100
- To: "public-web-mobile@w3.org" <public-web-mobile@w3.org>
Late regrets for this call - I have had a conflict today but I will normally be attending. Dan On 25/09/2013 16:00, "Dominique Hazael-Massieux" <dom@w3.org> wrote: >Hi, > >The minutes of our call today are available at: >http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-minutes.html > >and copied as text below. > >Thanks Natasha for scribing! > >Dom > > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ > > Web and Mobile Interest Group Teleconference > >25 Sep 2013 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-mobile/2013Sep/0091.html > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-irc > >Attendees > > Present > schuki, dom, jorabin, marcosc,LisaDeLuca_IBM, DanSun, > jsmanrique, stakagi, tobie > > Regrets > Chair > Jo > > Scribe > Natasha > >Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]Welcome > 2. [6]IG Goals > 3. [7]Modus Operandi > 4. [8]Teleconferences > 5. [9]Face to Face > 6. [10]Github > 7. [11]Closing The Gap Report > 8. [12]Standards for Webon Mobile Roadmap > 9. [13]AOB > * [14]Summary of Action Items > __________________________________________________________ > > <dom> Agenda: > [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-mobile/2013S > ep/0091.html > > [15] >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-mobile/2013Sep/0091.html > >Welcome > > <Ig_Ibert_Bittencourt> Hi everyone > > schuki: hi! I am Natasha from GSMA > > marcosc: hi! I am another co-chair, welcome everyone > > <Rumoroso> hi, I am connecting to voip... I am Rumoroso, from > CTIC... > > dom: i am also excited about being here, looking forward to the > work we will be doing > > jorabin: thanks everyone > >IG Goals > > <jorabin> [16]IG Charter > > [16] http://www.w3.org/2013/07/webmobile-ig-charter.html > > jorabin: let's go through the goals > > <Jose_Crespo> Hi there > > jorabin: mission: The mission of the Web and Mobile Interest > Group, part of the Mobile Web Initiative Activity, is to > accelerate the development of Web technology so that it becomes > a compelling platform for mobile applications and the obvious > choice for cross platform development. > ... this is our top level statement > ... we have been talking about the meaning of mobile / apps > ... it could be a waste of time to discuss this > ... but this is important as it helps us to scope the group > ... so it would be wise for us to define to help us work > towards this scope > > schuki: i am good with discussing this but would be good to > have a cut off point > ... so we don't get into a long and arduous discussion and > don't get any work done! > > <jorabin> to be clear, I think we should spend time discussing > meaning of "mobile" and "apps" as much as it is useful to > clarify our mission, namely "is to accelerate the development > of Web technology so that it becomes a compelling platform for > mobile applications and the obvious choice for cross platform > development." > > marcosc: we should spend time on this if there is controversy, > but not spend too much time on this > >Modus Operandi > > jorabin: we will be using the mailing list > ... public-web-mobile@w3c.org > ... we have also decided to use the W3C Tracke > > <dom> [17]Trackerr for WebMob > > [17] https://www.w3.org/Mobile/IG/track/ > > <dom> ACTION-30? > > <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to Add a note > about (or remove) 20% participation requirement from charter. > -- due 2013-09-25 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/Mobile/IG/track/actions/30 > > [18] http://www.w3.org/Mobile/IG/track/actions/30 > > dom: we can use this with IRC > ... we can create action items with IRC > > <dom> [19]Tracker documentation > > [19] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/ > > <scribe> ACTION: Natasha, include tracker link onto New > Participants wiki page [recorded in > [20]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Error finding 'Natasha,'. You can review and > register nicknames at > <[21]http://www.w3.org/Mobile/IG/track/users>. > > [21] http://www.w3.org/Mobile/IG/track/users%3E. > > dom: you can now subscribe to action items > >Teleconferences > > jorabin: how long do we think we should be holding teleconfs? > ... might be hard to say right now > ... not sure on how much work we have > ... any views from the participants? > ... who can organise a poll to do teleconfs? > > dom: me! > > <jorabin> ACTION: Dom to organise a Doodle poll re > teleconference times [recorded in > [22]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-minutes.html#action02] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Organise a doodle poll re > teleconference times [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due > 2013-10-02]. > > <jorabin> RESOLUTION: chairs to determine exact timing of > upcoming teleconfs in lead up to TPAC > >Face to Face > > jorabin: natasha? > > <jorabin> first Face to Face at TPAC, Thursday 14th Friday 15th > Nov > > [23]http://www.w3.org/wiki/Mobile/TPAC_Face-to-Face > > [23] http://www.w3.org/wiki/Mobile/TPAC_Face-to-Face > > <jorabin> (Natasha notes the topics that she will be > documenting in the wiki) > >Github > > marcosc: we have mentioned this on the mailing list > ... we will do work on github with the documents > ... some people may not be familar with github > ... tobie has some great documentation for this > ... we will put the documents and related topic online and > manage this via repositories > > <tobie> [24]http://tobie.github.io/specs-on-github/ > > [24] http://tobie.github.io/specs-on-github/ > > marcosc: at this point we are not in a position to know what > the actions are > ... but we will get there in the next few weeks > > <jorabin> [25]Webmob Github > > [25] https://github.com/w3c-webmob > > tobie: i have another doc but it is targetted to testing > ... W3C has some good ones, but i don't have more info > > dom: I'm not sure of anything > > jorabin: if people have a proble please let the chairs know > > <tobie> [26]https://help.github.com/ > > [26] https://help.github.com/ > > <jorabin> (Natasha will be writing about Github on our wiki) > > schuki: i will make a wiki page, including both of tobie's > links > >Closing The Gap Report > > dom: i sent some emails about this to the list > ... I managed a group looking into why the web isn't right for > developing apps > ... one of my high level expectations for this group is to > drive the agenda in this space > ... this includes best practices, specs etc. > ... I have also been adding all the interesting discussions > into the gap analysis > ... the Taxonomy of Mobile Apps is the document I am working on > ... I welcome feedback on this > ... I have 3 documents I have to submit to group > ... these are frameworks for what makes mobile platform good > and bad from user and provider perspective > ... the next is applying this to the web as a platform and see > where our weaknesses/strengths are and how to get better > ... the final one is an analysis of applications, news > consumption, media consumption, games etc (all categories) and > where the web is strong and where it is weak and how we can > improve this > ... i will be submitting large documents covering these > ... I hope these generate discussions so we can move forward on > this > > jorabin: the final one of those follows on from Matt Kelly's > (Facebook) analysis right? > > dom: yes, although we will want to start working from app > categories rather than specific apps > > <jorabin> schuki notes that the work that Dom is doing is > really important for pushing back through W3C ... > > <dom> [27]App Type research > > [27] >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-coremob/2012Jul/0058.html > >Standards for Webon Mobile Roadmap > > <jorabin> s/Webin/Web on/ > > dom: i have been writing this document and releasing every > quarter > > <dom> [28]Standards for Web on Mobile Roadmap > > [28] http://www.w3.org/Mobile/mobile-web-app-state/ > > dom: it goes through many specs, what implementations exist, > what is the status > ... the next iteration is scheduled for the end of the month > ... which is 5 days away! > ... I am using the Highlights to help flesh out the document > ... I want to know from this group how you can help me add to > this or change this > ... please let me know if you think something is missing or you > want to add to this > ... I can keep working on this, but if someone wants to take my > place I do not mind! > ... but I am fine with continuing it, I am happy to accept help > ... I want to know how to make it more useful > > jorabin: what are the advantages of this group taking over the > document? > > dom: if work comes from a W3C group rather than W3C staff the > work has a little more credibility > ... also if more people are involved then we can move faster as > there are more people to help > ... if the IG adopts the document it could get a balanced view > > <jorabin> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Webmob agrees to adopt > "Standards for Web on Mobile" > > <LisaDeLuca_IBM> +1 support > > +1 support also > > <stakagi> +1 > > <Ig_Ibert_Bittencourt> +1 > > <jsmanrique> +1 > > <jorabin> RESOLUTION: Webmob agrees to adopt "Standards for Web > on Mobile" > > dom: i will let the group know when the next iteration is > published > > <jorabin> noting that the next edition is under Dom's > supervision as it is next week > >AOB > > dom: I would like to talk about the Taxonomy document > ... there has been little feedback on the list > ... please let me know if people want to continue working on it > > <jorabin> [29]Apps Taxonomy > > [29] https://github.com/w3c-webmob/apps-taxonomy > > <dom> [30]Taxonomy of Mobile Application Platforms > > [30] http://w3c-webmob.github.io/apps-taxonomy/taxonomy.html > > <LisaDeLuca_IBM> Suggestion: whoever is maintaining the twitter > account @w3c_webmob should add links from our calls to twitter. > ex. github, tpac meeting, documents for review, etc. > > marcosc: I haven't had time to review yet, let's give people > some more time to review > > <dom> LisaDeLuca_IBM, that makes plenty of sense indeed > > marcosc: the doc is short, so we should be able to read it > quickly > > dom: the value of this document is when we discuss items such > as 'packaged apps', 'native apps', 'webapps' etc we know what > we are talking about > ... we understand what each other are referring and talking > about > > <Ig_Ibert_Bittencourt> I think document is very useful. I will > send feedback as soon as possible. > > marcosc: I am struggling with the same thing with Sys Apps > ... we have been trying to do away with these definitions > > dom: we may just need to clarify why we *don't* want to make a > distinction in some cases > > marcosc: if we can stick to the 'one web' mantra that would be > good > ... I can add some things to this too over the next few weeks > > jorabin: ! > ... thanks all! > > <Ig_Ibert_Bittencourt> Thanks > >Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: Dom to organise a Doodle poll re teleconference > times [recorded in > [31]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-minutes.html#action02] > [NEW] ACTION: Natasha, include tracker link onto New > Participants wiki page [recorded in > [32]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/25-webmob-minutes.html#action01] > > [End of minutes] > > > >
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