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Re: Mobile, Web and Multi-device

From: Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente <jsmanrique@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:03:45 +0200
Message-ID: <CAAn8QXpZtTLRgaT-YTgUeHtPq=CRAD2929mr58OCBxh0GybneA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Web and Mobile IG <public-web-mobile@w3.org>
I am agree about the IG Note...

OTOH, the main "issue" is that we are trying to use an "adjective" to
define "the Web" while the concept is wider than just one adjective. The
Web, as a platform based on a bunch of technologies and specs, is "mobile",
"contextual", "cross-device", "accessible",... And to achieve it the Web
takes into account "semantic", "context", "device capabilities", "user
capabilities", etc..

Trying to use just one adjective to define the whole thing seems to be a
restriction rather than a help to clarify...
El 18/09/2013 16:54, "Jo Rabin" <jo@linguafranca.org> escribió:

> I find myself agreeing strongly with many of the points made here.
>
> Bryan makes a particularly cogent point, I believe, identifying the user
> journey between devices … and that's why our mission is "to accelerate
> the development of Web technology so that it becomes a compelling platform
> for mobile applications and the obvious choice for cross platform
> development."
>
> Use of the word "mobile" is problematic. I'm not all that happy with it.
> But until we come up with a better way of communicating to all kinds of
> people at many stages of understanding that what we /really/ mean is
> multi-platform and cross-platform delivery of products and services that
> respond not only to the equipment being used for interacting with them, but
> also the context (beyond the equipment) in which the interaction is taking
> place … "mobile" will do.
>
> "Doing real life stuff" sounds like a very useful and down-to-earth way of
> getting at it.
>
> Personally I like the term "contextual" which would give us the
> "contextual web", but who would understand that? "Oh, you mean mobile?"
>
> On the meme of "the meaningless of mobile", I wrote a blog post about it a
> while back.
>
> http://spongegroup.com/app_dev.php/blog/03-26-2013/MUSING%20MOBILE
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> Good to see the consensus develop so quickly around this - we could have
> an IG Note, establishing a position before long!
>
> Jo
>
> On 18 Sep 2013, at 15:14, Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
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> On 18/09/2013 11:53, Jorge Rumoroso wrote:
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> "Mobile web" is the web that it is created (or adapted) to be used as
> soon as the user need it, in multiple context and multiple devices (with
> or without any capability and with some enviromental handicaps), not
> when the user is in an specific situation of place and device.
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> So it's the *content* and services that are mobile, rather than the
> devices. I like that redefinition.
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> Agree. This has little specifically to do with phones, tablets, etc. It's
> just about doing regular life stuff on a range of different devices, but
> with the Web as the platform.
>
> --
> Marcos Caceres
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