[testing] ACTION-137 (was Re: [testing] minutes - 28 August 2013)

Hi group,

I got the following action item from the previous call:
>  [NEW] ACTION: Kaz to add a graph for discussion [recorded in
>   [14]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

So I've generated a graph based on the survey result
at:
 http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/survey-results

Please see attached "survey.png".

I also added some description on the figure at:

http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/survey-results#Graph_generated_using_the_above_results

Thanks,

Kazuyuki


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> wrote:

> available at:
>  http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html
>
> also as text below.
>
> Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Bin!
>
> Kazuyuki
>
> ---
>    [1]W3C
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>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>
>                                - DRAFT -
>
>                 Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference
>
> 28 Aug 2013
>
>    See also: [2]IRC log
>
>       [2] http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>    Present
>           Bin, Daniel, Kaz, Clarke, Sheau, Paul
>
>    Regrets
>    Chair
>           Clarke
>
>    Scribe
>           Bin_Hu
>
> Contents
>
>      * [3]Topics
>          1. [4]Survey results table
>          2. [5]Requirements document
>      * [6]Summary of Action Items
>      __________________________________________________________
>
> Survey result table
>
>    Clarke: let's get started
>    ... let's review the changes and comments on the table and
>    coments if any
>    ... let's review and schedule
>    ... let's look at the table first
>
>    <Clarke> [7]survey results table
>
>       [7] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/survey-results
>
>    Clarke: what Giuseppe did was to consolidate the table
>    ... on top of the table, Giuseppe added the data
>
>    paul: the external votes are 17 out of 20, and internal votes
>    are 44 out of 44.
>
>    Clarke: that's right. One of the agenda is to get introduction
>    of the table
>    ... do we think it sufficient, or do we need some explanatory
>    text?
>
>    paul: it is the short start of the real table of data. probably
>    it is enough
>
>    Paul: I know we agree to do this, I am fine with the result. I
>    don't know how we assign the value to the result
>    ... if you scroll down a little bit of the table
>    ... for example CSS Flexible, the score is 9. There are
>    different way to give 9, or give 4 or 3
>    ... the 3rd column, you got 17 from different ways, for example
>    4 can say 4 and 1 can say 1, or 2 can say 4 and 3 can say 3
>
>    Clarke: I agree if you get the sample site, it won't you give
>    you a lot of information, it gives you some information. For
>    example, if you get 500 response
>
>    Kaz: we have done the merge of external response and internal
>    response, but can we do some analysis?
>
>    <kaz> ... e.g., from 2-dimensional viewpoint. internal vote
>    value can correspond to X-axis, and external vote value can
>    correspond to Y-axis
>
>    Clarke: I am wondering if we can proactively to do this,
>    ... or if HTML test task force comes back, and tells us
>    something
>    ... I am open
>
>    paul: graph is interesting, and we can learn from quadrant
>    ... what the priorities are
>
>    Clarke: if you want to do a graph, we can all look at it and
>    add some important information
>
>    Kaz: I can do this
>
>    <scribe> ACTION: Kaz to add a graph for discussion [recorded in
>    [8]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
>
>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Add a graph for discussion [on
>    Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2013-09-04].
>
>    Clarke: the table stays the same. the graph would be
>    essentially the whole table
>
>    Sheau: my understanding is to get one column is x, one column
>    is y, and each row is a graph
>
>    Clarke: I am not sure which is easy way to see
>
>    Kaz: I will do the easiest to see. There are options to draw
>    graph. Maybe I can explore those options
>
>    <kaz> ... simple graph or scatter one
>
>    <kaz> ... may be 2-d or might be 3-d
>
>    Sheau: I support the idea of graph, I am not sure which way to
>    visualize it
>
>    paul: bubble graph, x internal votes 0 to 44, y external votes
>    0 to 20
>    ... we also need to learn it once we have done it
>
>    Clarke: we can do that, and take a look at it next time
>    ... any other comments on the table?
>    ... if not, let move on to the next topic
>
> Requirements document
>
>    <Clarke> [9]Requirements document
>
>       [9]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zY5_C0ZK4_Z2_WMSf2MSu5pBI8tNAgmL2o-Ua_rv1Jg/edit
>
>    Clarke: is there any track changes in google doc? I couldn't
>    see what changes Giuseppe made
>    ... he highlighted it
>    ... looks like he re-organize it
>
>    Paul: there is a revision history
>
>    Clarke: let's toggle between them
>
>    Clarke: I didn't notice anything that is obviously a change.
>    Maybe we need Giuseppe to explain what changes he made next
>    time
>    ... maybe I will ask him to point out what are the changes
>
>    <scribe> ACTION: Clarke to ask Giuseppe to point out the
>    changes of the requirement document [recorded in
>    [10]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action02]
>
>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Ask giuseppe to point out the
>    changes of the requirement document [on Clarke Stevens - due
>    2013-09-04].
>
>    Clarke: are there changes someone else made?
>
>    Sheau: I assume the formatting will be cleaned up later, right?
>
>    Clarke: right. Also we talked about the document organizational
>    changes last time. Such as details are inconsistent
>    ... Giuseppe wanted to normalize it a little bit
>    ... referencing general standard
>    ... we want to capture what need to be tested
>    ... let's move on to schedule
>    ... last week we had a proposal to get the table there. We are
>    almost there.
>    ... Is there an official format?
>
>    Kaz: we can have an Editor Draft version. Later on, we can use
>    HTML format to be more conformant to W3C style
>    ... I can create a static HTML file based on that
>    ... then we can ask webmaster to publish it
>
>    Clarke: are you going to do it?
>    ... If nobody else, I will work with Kaz, Giuseppe, Daniel on
>    that
>
>    <scribe> ACTION: Clarke to work with Giuseppe, Kaz and Daniel
>    to convert the table to HTML format [recorded in
>    [11]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action03]
>
>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Work with giuseppe, kaz and
>    daniel to convert the table to html format [on Clarke Stevens -
>    due 2013-09-04].
>
>    Clarke: any other business?
>    ... if not, thank you and we will have tasks for the next a
>    couple weeks
>    ... let's adjourn
>
>    <Clarke> Thanks, bin
>
>    <kaz> [ adjourned ]
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>    [NEW] ACTION: Clarke to ask Giuseppe to point out the changes
>    of the requirement document [recorded in
>    [12]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action02]
>    [NEW] ACTION: Clarke to work with Giuseppe, Kaz and Daniel to
>    convert the table to HTML format [recorded in
>    [13]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action03]
>    [NEW] ACTION: Kaz to add a graph for discussion [recorded in
>    [14]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
>
>    [End of minutes]
>      __________________________________________________________
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Kaz Ashimura, W3C Staff Contact for Web&TV, MMI and Voice
Tel: +81 466 49 1170