Re: [tt] Minutes of Timed Text TF teleconference, 11 July 2013

Thanks. No surprises there (except that WebVTT is completely missing
from the pictures).
I guess somebody needs to create a picture for how it works with
native Web content through Web CMSes.

Silvia.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
<pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
> Hi Silvia,
>
> Below are two that come to mind:
>
> http://tech.ebu.ch/ebu-tt
> https://www.smpte.org/publications/wallcharts
>
> Best,
>
> -- Pierre
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry I wasn't able to join this morning. Family commitments.
>>
>> Someone mentioned a link to the process in dock captions end up on the web.
>> Could you share the link?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Silvia.
>>
>> On 12 Jul 2013 07:57, "Daniel Davis" <ddavis@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Available at:
>>>  http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html
>>>
>>> Also as text below.
>>>
>>> Thank you to Kaz for the note-taking hand-holding and tidying up.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>    [1]W3C
>>>
>>>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>>>
>>>                                - DRAFT -
>>>
>>>                    Web and TV IG - Timed Text TF Call
>>>
>>> 11 Jul 2013
>>>
>>>    [2]Agenda
>>>
>>>       [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5
>>>
>>>    See also: [3]IRC log
>>>
>>>       [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-irc
>>>
>>> Attendees
>>>
>>>    Present
>>>           Kaz, Daniel, Graham, Pierre, Glenn, Mark, Mike
>>>           (Observer)
>>>
>>>    Regrets
>>>    Chair
>>>           Pierre
>>>
>>>    Scribe
>>>           ddavis
>>>
>>> Contents
>>>
>>>      * [4]Topics
>>>          1. [5]Daniel is joining
>>>          2. [6]Input to Timed Text WG charter revision process
>>>          3. [7]Improve the structure of Timed_Text_Efforts
>>>          4. [8]Ecosystem drawing
>>>          5. [9]Next call
>>>      * [10]Summary of Action Items
>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>    <kaz> kaz: ok to invite Mike Dolan to this call?
>>>
>>>    <kaz> pal: ok
>>>
>>>    <kaz> (Mike's participation is approved)
>>>
>>> Daniel is joining
>>>
>>>    <kaz> ddavis: 50% Team Contact :)
>>>
>>>    <Mark_Vickers> Welcome, Daniel. Glad to have you with us!
>>>
>>>    Thank you!
>>>
>>> Input to Timed Text WG charter revision process
>>>
>>>    <pal>
>>>    [11]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/TTWG_Consensus_Input
>>>
>>>      [11] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/TTWG_Consensus_Input
>>>
>>>    <scribe> scribenick: ddavis
>>>
>>>    <pal> proposed additional text at
>>>    [12]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5#P
>>>    roposed_Agenda
>>>
>>>      [12]
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Meeting_5#Proposed_Agenda
>>>
>>>    pal: I'm going to add this proposed text to the Consensus Input
>>>    now
>>>    ... The change is now added (as point 5)
>>>    ... Something that was not perhaps clear is that the Web & TV
>>>    IG was supporting the addition of WebVTT deliverables to the
>>>    TTWG deliverables
>>>    ... so maybe there should be a sentence added to that effect.
>>>    ... Showing that we support WebVTT as part of the deliverables
>>>    for the Timed Text WG.
>>>
>>>    <kaz> Mark_Vickers: good place to do that
>>>
>>>    pal: Again, I'm going to make this addition to the Consensus
>>>    Input now.
>>>    ... Has now been added to the paragraph before the numbered
>>>    items.
>>>    ... If there are no objections, I'll post this back to the
>>>    Interest Group reflector
>>>    ... and hopefully the IG can then forward this to W3C Team.
>>>    ... Thank you - I think this closes one of our work items.
>>>
>>>    <pal> next agenda topic:
>>>    [13]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Efforts
>>>
>>>      [13] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Tt/Timed_Text_Efforts
>>>
>>>    <scribe> ACTION: pal to post the Consensus Input to the
>>>    Interest Group reflector [recorded in
>>>    [14]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
>>>
>>>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Post the Consensus Input to the
>>>    Interest Group reflector [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due
>>>    2013-07-18].
>>>
>>> Improve the structure of Timed_Text_Efforts
>>>
>>>    pal: There has been the suggestion that this wiki page could be
>>>    better organised.
>>>
>>>    Mark_Vickers: I have some ideas and would be happy to work with
>>>    you offline
>>>    ... to update this page.
>>>
>>>    mike: It seems there's a tangle in this process.
>>>
>>>    pal: Only members can edit the wiki.
>>>
>>>    Mark_Vickers: I'll push to get that resolved so that I can edit
>>>    it.
>>>
>>>    mike: We have some private email with ideas that could really
>>>    improve this page.
>>>
>>>    pal: Thanks - I'm happy to help as well.
>>>
>>> Ecosystem drawing
>>>
>>>    pal: Next item is "ecosystem drawing"
>>>    ... How do all those captions out there end up on the web, etc?
>>>    ... I put up a link to an overview of the caption workflow that
>>>    EBU and others use.
>>>    ... It might be good for this group to create a similar
>>>    illustration of how timed text is created and ultimately put on
>>>    the web.
>>>    ... I'm spending time on it but if someone else has a strong
>>>    opinion on it, I'm happy.
>>>    ... I'd like to hear other opinions - is it needed? Is it
>>>    needed here? Is it needed urgently?
>>>
>>>    mark_vickers: I think it's useful to have to shed light on some
>>>    of the difficulties we're facing
>>>    ... but I think people in the TT WG specifically are probably
>>>    aware of this already.
>>>
>>>    pal: Any other comments about this?
>>>    ... No? OK. Any other new topics?
>>>
>>> Next call
>>>
>>>    pal: Hearing none and having gone through the agenda, let's
>>>    choose a date for our next meeting.
>>>    ... I think 2pm is the best compromise. How about August 1st?
>>>
>>>    <kaz> (that is August 2, 6am in Japan)
>>>
>>>    pal: This timeslot was made to try to accommodate everyone
>>>    including Sylvia in Australia, so I think we should give this
>>>    timeslot another try.
>>>    ... so let's try August 1st, 2pm Los Angeles time.
>>>    ... Thank you every - look forward to speaking to you again in
>>>    2 weeks.
>>>
>>>    <kaz> [ adjourned ]
>>>
>>> Summary of Action Items
>>>
>>>    [NEW] ACTION: pal to post the Consensus Input to the Interest
>>>    Group reflector [recorded in
>>>    [15]http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
>>>
>>>    [End of minutes]
>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>
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