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Re: Workshop notes and next steps

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:21:09 +0900
Message-ID: <4D5FD1D5.60301@w3.org>
To: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
CC: Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Hi Mark,

It was very nice to meet you in Berlin during the workshop, and we are
very sorry to make you confused and surprised.  Please let us add some
clarification about the situation.

Actually, we originally thought we should have put the summary and the
minutes of the workshop together first and clarify what was discussed
during the workshop so that we can start discussion about what we should
do for the next steps.  We thought so, because we should get consensus
within the whole Interest Group if we really send out an email as an
official message from the group to a specific external group like 3GPP.

However, unfortunately, there was a timing issue that there would be a
3GPP meeting planned this week from Thursday, Feb. 17th, and we needed
to send some initial message to start discussion with them right away.

As you know, there was a strong request for an RF profile of DASH for
the Web supported by many of the Berlin workshop attendees.  So we (=4
IG co-Chairs and 2 W3C staff contacts) talked with each other and the
conclusion was that it would make sense for us to send a simple initial
message to 3GPP, like:
We in the W3C Web and TV IG need an RF profile of DASH for the Web.
So we request to work together with you to prioritize the profiles
that should be RF.

We thought a short statement like the above should be comparatively
less controversial and have broad support by the other IG participants.

We are very sorry we could not explain the difficult situation and why
we were in rush beforehand.  We think we should ask all the IG
participants, esp. official W3C Member participants (including you),
for opinions about how to continue the collaboration with other
standardization organizations.  So we would like to continue the
discussion on this list.


Kazuyuki Ashimura
for the Web and TV Interest Group Chairs and staff contacts :)

On 02/17/2011 01:23 AM, Mark Watson wrote:
> Francois,
> That's a surprise - I thought the letter was to come from the IG, not the co-chairs. It was mentioned several times in the meeting that it would come from the IG, so I saunas we would get to review and agree it first. (Kaz did not allude to you sending it, just to you preparing it).
> There are several areas where the letter does not align with what was discussed in the workshop.
> I hope we can discuss the letter to MPEG and send it from the whole IG.
> I think we should do that asap. As I understand there are internal processes within some companies that will benefit from this letter, so we should not wait on MPEG meeting dates.
> ...Mark
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:47 PM, "Francois Daoust"<fd@w3.org>  wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>> On 02/14/2011 08:46 PM, Mark Watson wrote:
>>> Also, what are the logistics for the next steps in the IG ? Particularly the letter from the IG to MPEG and 3GPP. Is someone working on a draft ?
>> As Kaz alluded to, we've prepared and sent a short letter to 3GPP members as discussed during the workhop, copied below. There is more time for MPEG as their next meeting is in March, IIRC, so this second letter may (and should!) be addressed by the IG.
>> -----
>> Dear 3GPP Members,
>> The W3C has recently launched a Web and TV Interest Group, set to identify requirements and potential solutions to ensure that the Web will function well with TV.
>> During the second W3C Web and TV workshop, held in Berlin on 8-9 February 2011, it came to our attention that many participants of the workshop are interested in adopting DASH as a possible adaptive streaming mechanism on the Web. As a result, the organizing chairs of the workshop have asked the co-chairs of the Interest Group on Web and TV to convey this interest from workshop participants to 3GPP members, and to inquire about the licensing status of DASH. W3C has a strict royalty-free patent policy on the technologies that get adopted as core Web technologies.
>> We would very much appreciate if you could inform us of the current status of the specification of DASH and the possibility to work together on a royalty free profile of the specification for potential integration of DASH as adaptive streaming mechanism for audio and video in HTML.
>> 3GPP members willing to discuss the topic with participants of the Web and TV Interest Group may use the public public-web-and-tv@w3.org mailing-list, whose archives are publicly available at:
>>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/
>> Companies and individuals willing to know more about W3C and W3C process may get in touch with Francois Daoust<fd@w3.org>  and Kazuyuki Ashimura<kaz@w3.org>, W3C staff contacts for the Web and TV Interest Group.
>> Best regards,
>> Francois Daoust,
>> On behalf of the W3C Web and TV Interest Group chairs.
>> -----

Kaz Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/all#ashimura
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