Re: Set of software

On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Loïc Martínez Normand <loic@fi.upm.es> wrote:
> Concerning the definition, in the slides there are two slightly different proposals (slides 2 and 3), and it seems to me that the notes are mixed (note 2 in slide 3 only makes sense for the definition in slide 2). Gregg, which one are you proposing that we agree on? 

The group had two definitions on two different days.   So I included them both. 

Personally, I can live with either -- thought I thought the one which said ("with no other action") was much safer.   I am concerned that links and other things might open other docs back and forth and bring things into the definition that we did not intend. 


Gregg
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Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net

On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Loïc Martínez Normand <loic@fi.upm.es> wrote:

> Dear all,
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> First of all I know that we can't change the SC and that we can't ignore the word "set", so I'm afraid we have to live with this... even if I really think that we are missing essential accessibility requirements within software products. But I'm afraid there is no other way out of this that to have this definition of "set of documents".
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> Concerning the definition, in the slides there are two slightly different proposals (slides 2 and 3), and it seems to me that the notes are mixed (note 2 in slide 3 only makes sense for the definition in slide 2). Gregg, which one are you proposing that we agree on? 
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> Best regards,
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> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Crowell, Pierce <Pierce.Crowell@ssa.gov> wrote:
> Most of us gov folks cannot access DropBox.  Can you send another way?
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> That we are to hunting for an example is telling.  I am not relieved by the notion that it won’t come up much.  What it means to me is that it will be confusing and probably misused by the uninitiated. 
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> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:49 PM
> To: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org Force
> Subject: Set of software
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> all of the deal with sets
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> we resolved the document side by defining set of documents.
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> For the software side a "set of software" was proposed but there was a question raised as to whether there was software that met that the definition.
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> I raised the question during a briefing in WCAG meeting and Robin Tuttle from Boing spoke up and said that she had worked on software that met the definition. 
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> She scheduled a  meeting when people said they wanted to see it -- but no one made it. So I asked her for screen shots.   
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> Here is a link to a powerpoint of the software.  
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> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13132127/Set%20of%20Software.4a.pptx
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> I would like to again propose that we just adopt the definition of software that we developed and close these last 4 items. 
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> There may not be many examples of this -- but it wasn’t hard to find the first one.     Just a poll of the two working groups turned up one. 
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> At any rate, we all agree that there don't seem to be many -- so this one won't come up very often.   And we all agree that we would not make this guideline for sets of software if we were making guidelines (but would instead talk about inside the software).   But we were told we can't change the SC or ignore the word set... so I propose we adopt the definition since there are such things, and close these. 
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> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Director Trace R&D Center
> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
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> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
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