RE: Action Item #19 Work with Al to come up with a couple of examples for 4.1.2

Ditto.

From: Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:14 AM
To: Gregg Vanderheiden
Cc: Hoffman, Allen; Crowell, Pierce; 'public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org'
Subject: Re: Action Item #19 Work with Al to come up with a couple of examples for 4.1.2

Gregg,

Thanks for catching that, I'm fine with "to be".


Peter
On 6/28/2012 6:47 AM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
this looks good except for the word SHOULD which I didn't notice before -- but shouldn't be here.   We are avoiding formal standard terms  MUST/SHALL SHOULD  MAY

perhaps change it to  "to be"



Most platform accessibility services go beyond programmatic exposure of name and role, and programmatic setting of states, properties and values (and notification of same), and specify additional information to be exposed and/or set (for example, obtaining a list of the available actions for a given user interface component, and programmatically executing one of the listed actions).

RE the example at the end.  -- this seems to be good info but the wrong form.   The sentence is about "information to be exposed"  but the example is not information but a n example of a use of the information (I think).   maybe it should be   "  e.g a list

(for example a list of the available actions for a given user interface component, and a means to programmatically execute one of the listed actions).


that would give us


Most platform accessibility services go beyond programmatic exposure of name and role, and programmatic setting of states, properties and values (and notification of same), and specify additional information to be exposed and/or set (for example a list of the available actions for a given user interface component, and a means to programmatically execute one of the listed actions).


Gregg
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University of Wisconsin-Madison

Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
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On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Hoffman, Allen wrote:

I'm fine with Peter's last writing here.

From: Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:27 PM
To: Crowell, Pierce
Cc: 'public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>'
Subject: Re: Action Item #19 Work with Al to come up with a couple of examples for 4.1.2

Pierce,

For me the parenthetical remark "(and notification of same)" are "event notifications", so I think mentioning such notification a second time is redundant.  But there are two aspects of actions that might be called out separately, so as to have two examples: enumerating them and programmatically executing them.

Here's a proposed edit, with the new example text in the parenthetical example at the end, in boldface italics:\
Most platform accessibility services go beyond programmatic exposure of name and role, and programmatic setting of states, properties and values (and notification of same), and specify additional information that could or should be exposed and/or set (for example, obtaining a list of the available actions for a given user interface component, and programmatically executing one of the listed actions).

Regards,

Peter

On 6/27/2012 2:05 PM, Crowell, Pierce wrote:
Action Item #19 Work with Al to come up with a couple of examples for 4.1.2

We propose the last sentence read:
Most platform accessibility services go beyond programmatic exposure of name and role, and programmatic setting of states, properties and values (and notification of same), and specify additional information that could or should be exposed and/or set (for example, event notifications and lists of available actions).

Pierce

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