- From: David MacDonald <befree@magma.ca>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:44:04 -0400
- To: "'Sofia Celic'" <Sofia.Celic@visionaustralia.org>
- Cc: <public-wcag-teamc@w3.org>
Hi Sophia I don't mind amending the technique to say there should be a link from the field to the list rather than automatic return. I agree in general that there should be JavaScript fallbacks. Is it necessary for us to say that in every technique that uses JavaScript? Should we make a global resolution to put a note on every JavaScript technique that there should be a fallback. I'm OK with that. If I make that edit about the link is the technique OK? David access empowers people... ...barriers disable them... www.eramp.com -----Original Message----- From: Sofia Celic [mailto:Sofia.Celic@visionaustralia.org] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:41 PM To: David MacDonald Cc: public-wcag-teamc@w3.org Subject: RE: advisory tech for 2.5.1 Hi David, I'm not saying that Javascript should be ignored. Not at all. Javascript is an important part of the web that can vastly improve the user experience - for both usability and accessibility. However, it needs to be used smartly until user agents catch up with new technologies/uses and provide effective and efficient means of their use for all users. This may mean that backup implementations need to be in place. <start quote> But assuming it was, do know of anyone who uses a custom loaded style sheet? In 10 years I've never met anyone who has used a custom stylesheet (besides a lab that was testing it) and I have asked other consultants and they've never heard of anyone using a custom stylesheet (beside doing a test on it). Do you think this is an issue? <end quote> I know of people who would really like this capability. It is not practically possible right now, on the most part. In particular, people who are colour blind and would really like to be able layer their own CSS on top of the author's one when links do not have underlines. They don't want to change the author's layout or colour scheme or anything other than links. <start quote> In practice I've seen the list of errors implemented quite successfully in banks etc... Although I haven't seen focus automatically sent there. But if the list of errors are links to the corresponding fields then I think it would be quite a good experience for a sighted person. Because they would simple make one click to the next error field, and that is faster than getting there by scrolling to the next error. <end quote> It is only a very specific part of the technique that I believe sighted, mouse users would find annoying: being automatically taken back to the list of errors when they leave the form control where they have just fixed an error. This could be avoided by implementing a "manual" link after the form control instead of an automatic shift. Selecting the link, if the user should want to, would then take the user back to the list of errors. Sofia ________________________________ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 505 Spam messages and set aside 262 Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007 3:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007 3:34 PM
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