- From: Becky Gibson <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:21:53 -0400
- To: public-wcag-teamc@w3.org
Issue 665 suggests modifying 1.3.2 to also allow the information to be programmatically determined. I actually think this is reasonable, covers what we want, and allows for future expansion. Although, we would have to be careful to word it clearly and make the HTM document very explicit. I am making a fairly controversial proposal to combine 1.3.2 and 1.3.4 at level 1. <proposal for 1.3.2> Information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text is also conveyed in text, or the information can be programmatically determined. </proposal> we would have to update the variations in presentation of text definition to include color. Sufficient techniques would be: Situation A: If the variations in presentation of text of particular words is used to indicate information. G14: Ensuring that color encoded information is also available in text G122: Including a text cue whenever color cues are used G117: Using text to convey information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text Marking emphasized or special text USING technology-specific techniques to convey the same information as the emphasize or special text (for a technology in your baseline) Situation B: If color is used within an image to convey information. 1. G111: Using color and pattern (for example, colors on bar/pie charts with lines or texture fills) 2. G14: Ensuring that color encoded information is also available in text HTML Techniques for Marking Text H49: Using semantic markup to mark emphasized or special text We would need to add an additional failure, Failure due to conveying information via text color alone. The failure would be a form that has the instructions, "Required fields are labeled with red text". With the explanation that even though a user agent or assistive technology can programmatically determine that text label for a field is in a particular color, this SC requires that the user be able to obtain the information about the field - that it is required. I think we can add "programmatically determined" to this SC as long as we emphasize that the INFORMATION is programmatically determined NOT the variation in presentation of text. It does elevate 1.3.4 which did allow just the variation to be programmatically determined. I'm not sure why we would want to allow that anyway - I know we discussed it but how is making something bold any better than marking it in color? It just helps color blind folks but doesn't help the blind. The sufficient techniques all require that the information is available or use techniques from 1.3.1 which is already at level 1. Feel free to shoot this proposal down if you remember more about the discussions than I do. I was just trying to make a proposal that would make us think and perhaps move beyond the road blocks we keep encountering for 1.3.2 and 1.3.4. I think this proposed rewording does accomplish what we want. Currently 1.3.4 is at level 2 but the sufficient techniques already require that the information can be determined not just the variations in presentation of text. This proposal would negate the resolution to issue 559 but would address 558 and 665. food for thought, Becky Gibson Web Accessibility Architect IBM Emerging Internet Technologies 5 Technology Park Drive Westford, MA 01886 Voice: 978 399-6101; t/l 333-6101 Email: gibsonb@us.ibm.com
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