RE: programmatically determined

If the content is not free or publicly available, then the data
associated with the content accessibility for software use would not
need to be free and publicly available either.  If the content is free
and available to the public, then the data should be available freely
and publicly.  This is a show stopper if not addressed. -Alex


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	From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
	Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:21 AM
	To: 'John M Slatin'; public-wcag-teama@w3.org
	Subject: RE: programmatically determined
	
	
	john  
	the  phrase "user-agent-supported"   is an adjective along with
publicly documented 
	 
	so if i rearranged the words as you suggest -  this and other
sentences fall apart. 
	 
	this one becomes determined by software from data provided in a
publicly documented and manner  supported by user-agents  
	 
	 
	 
	
	
	 
	
	Gregg
	
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		From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John M Slatin
		Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:35 AM
		To: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag-teama@w3.org
		Subject: RE: programmatically determined
		
		
		I hadn't remembered quite such significant edits, but I
think it's OK. I'd like to suggst a slight editorial tweak for
readability:
		 
		change "user agent supported manner" to "manner
supported by user agents" in the text of the definition.
		 
		Change the Note to read "Supported by user agents means
..."
		 
		These do not affect the substance of either the
definition or the note. But "user agent supported"  is hard to read and
understand.

		 
		John

		
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			From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg
Vanderheiden
			Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:09 am
			To: public-wcag-teama@w3.org
			Subject: programmatically determined
			
			
			is this what we came up with for PD today?
			 
			tried to pull it together from our discussion
			 
			removed standard
			removed free
			 
			 
			programmatically determined 

			determined by software from data provided in a
publicly documented and user-agent supported manner. 

			Note: Publicly documented here means that
documents are available in a free and accessible manner to the public,
including availability on the Web. 

			Note: User-agent supported here means that user
agents and assisted technologies support the method for extracting and
presenting this information. One of the factors that should be
considered before adding a technology to a baseline would be the
availability of affordable user agents and assisted technologies which
support the technology.
			 
			 
			
			Gregg
			
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