Re: Change title of Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM

Mike,

But...  if we none of us are finding fully conforming websites (which 
are only getting larger and more complex, particularly with web 
applications), then our emphasis should be on how to report the reality 
around us, not the theoretical perfection we don't see.


Peter

On 9/12/2013 12:51 PM, Elledge, Michael (M.S.) wrote:
>
> Hi Peter---
>
> I completely agree. I have yet to find a fully conforming website in 
> my evaluations, except for one I made back in WCAG 1.0 days. :^)
>
> I was thinking, though, that providing several sample statements could 
> help illustrate what we meant by conformance and non-conformance.
>
> Mike
>
> *From:*Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:35 PM
> *To:* Elledge, Michael (M.S.)
> *Cc:* public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Change title of Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM
>
> Mike,
>
> We may well, occasionally, find that all of the pages in a sampling 
> conform.  Much more likely, folks using WCAG-EM may find that at most 
> a subset of the sampled pages conform.  But I expect the vast majority 
> of the time, folks applying WCAG-EM will find problems (however small) 
> in most of the sampled pages.
>
> Does anyone in this TF have experience to the contrary in the 
> considerable experience we collectively have evaluating websites?
>
> So I believe the emphasis of any examples should be in how to report 
> the most common realities out there.  And not the theoretical 
> perfection we are all still yearning to find actually exists in the wild.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> On 9/12/2013 6:54 AM, Elledge, Michael (M.S.) wrote:
>
>     Hi all---
>
>     I wonder if this issue can be addressed by the wording of a
>     conformance claim. Just as people will be looking to us for the
>     method for evaluating webpages/websites according to WCAG 2.0,
>     they will also look for the appropriate wording to use. We may
>     want to consider referencing Section 5.b and providing clear
>     statements they can use, such as:
>
>     WCAG 2.0 Level AA Conformance: All pages
>
>     WCAG 2.0 Level AA Conformance: Sample---15 of 150 pages
>
>     Mike
>
>     Mike Elledge
>
>     Usability Specialist
>
>     Creative Design and Usability (CDU)
>
>     Ford Motor Company
>
>     313-390-4853
>
> -- 
> Oracle <http://www.oracle.com>
> Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal
> Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522>
> 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94065
> Green Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/commitment>Oracle is committed to 
> developing practices and products that help protect the environment
>

-- 
Oracle <http://www.oracle.com>
Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal
Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522>
500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94065
Green Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to 
developing practices and products that help protect the environment