- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:08:40 +0200
- To: Michael S Elledge <elledge@msu.edu>
- CC: Eval TF <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>, Léonie Watson <lwatson@nomensa.com>
Hi Mike, Leonie, Where do you see the proposed definition of website be limited to HTML? The currently proposed definition for "website" is: [[ A coherent collection of one or more related web pages that together provide common use or functionality. It includes static web pages, dynamically generated web pages, and web applications. ]] The definition for "web page" (from WCAG2 [1]) is: [[ a non-embedded resource obtained from a single URI using HTTP plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it by a user agent ]] I understand that this includes any technology such as Flash, PDF, and Silverlight as long as they are delivered through HTTP (which includes HTTPS) and are intended to be rendered by a user agent (as opposed to other uses of these technologies). [1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#webpagedef> Best, Shadi On 3.10.2011 16:23, Michael S Elledge wrote: > I am also concerned that we not exclude non-html technologies. I > understand the need to restrict the delivery of a website to a user > agent (otherwise it could also include "software" which is defined > separately by W3C), but there is enough content being delivered that is > not based on html that we should be sure to include it in our definition. > > I think this would also be compatible with WCAG 2.0's > "technology-agnostic" approach. > > Mike > > >> That seems to be a more technically specific description Denis. > > I wonder whether we need to extend either description to reference page > assets as well though? > > Flash/PDF/Silverlight/whatever entities for example? >> >> Léonie. > On 10/3/2011 12:59 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote: >> Hi Denis, >> >> Short: what is it that you are trying to fix? ;) >> >> Long: please explain what issues you see with the current proposal and >> some of the rationale for your suggestion. In particular, I'm not sure >> what is meant by an "organized" vs "un-organized" set of related pages >> and why you want to restrict a website to something being on a single >> "web server". Also, the "HTTP protocol" and "accessed by a user agent" >> aspects are already in the WCAG2 definition of a web page so I think >> there is no need to repeat that in the definition of "website". >> >> Best, >> Shadi >> >> >> On 3.10.2011 06:24, Denis Boudreau wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Having looked at the current I'd like to propose, if I may, another >>> definition for what a "website" is. >>> >>> Right now, we have: "A coherent collection of one or more related web >>> pages that together provide common use or functionality. It includes >>> static web pages, dynamically generated web pages, and web >>> applications". >>> >>> I think something along the lines of the following would cover more >>> ground and circumscribe more efficiently what we mean by "website": >>> >>> "An organized set of related web pages using HTML or XHTML, linked in >>> a coherent structure, hosted on a Web server, accessed by a user >>> agent and governed by the HTTP or the HTTPS protocol". >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> /Denis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG) Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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