- From: Vicente Luque Centeno <vlc@it.uc3m.es>
- Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:54:48 +0200 (CEST)
- To: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
- Cc: public-wai-ert@w3.org
- Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0605031830380.5273@violin.it.uc3m.es>
I have already translated most of my XSLT templates into Schematron rules
(only in a paper, bummer ;-) and into XQuery expressions. However, I have
no idea about how Schematron support can be got with XSLT tools. Another
important thing: How can variables be represented in Schematron? There are
some XSLT expresions that require the usage of multiple variables and the
"current()" Schematron expression is not enough when I need to use more
than one variable. Could you help me on that? Could you translate the
following rule into Schematron?
<xsl:for-each select="//xhtml:select | //xhtml:textarea |
//xhtml:input[@type='password' or
@type='text' or
@type='checkbox' or
@type='radio' or
@type='file']">
<xsl:variable name="ff" select="." />
<xsl:variable name="labels" select="//xhtml:label[@for = $ff/@id]"/>
<xsl:if test="count($labels)>1 or (count($labels)=0 and not(@title))">
<li><xsl:apply-templates select="$ff" mode="print" /> has
<strong><xsl:value-of select="count($labels)" /></strong> labels.</li>
<xsl:text> </xsl:text>
</xsl:if>
</xsl:for-each>
If this rule is expressible in Schematron, please, tell me how. It states
that any non-hidden form field without a title attribute, should have a
label describing its purpose. $ff is each form field. $labels is the set
of labels referring $ff.
I could easily modify my XSLT file to produce EARL reports as well (the
wa-earl.xslt file of the step 4 you already mentioned). Maybe in few hours
I could easily get it to produce "rude" EARL reports. But I also felt that
I would not be able to exploit all the EARL features and I'd rather have
well ellaborated EARL reports instead of "rude" EARL reports.
Thanks a lot.
Vicente Luque Centeno
Dep. Ingeniería Telemática
Universidad Carlos III de Madrid
http://www.it.uc3m.es/vlc
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
>
> Hi Vicente,
>
> At 17:00 3/05/2006, Vicente Luque Centeno wrote:
> <quote>
> Yes, it is possible to rewrite my XSLT templates into Schematron rules (and
> some other constraint languages as well), but I am not volunteeing either
> ;-). I think that making a hierarchy of XSLT files would be easier. At least
> XSLT has a wider tool support than Schematron and is a W3C recommendation by
> itself. Anyway, can you give us some reference that explains how Schematron
> rules can generate EARL reports by default?
> </quote>
>
> I thought that Schematron support is a non-issue because all you need is an
> XSLT that turns the Schematron file into the actual validator/XSLT file that
> generates the output you want.
> The idea is that you
> 1) first create your Web Accessibility Schematron (wa.sch),
> 2) create schematron-earl.xslt,
> 3) "compile" your schematron, e.g. with C:\saxon wa.sch schematron-earl.xslt
>> wa-earl.xslt
> 4) then "validate" the XHTML page, e.g. with C:\saxon bad.xhtml wa-earl.xslt
>> bad.xhtml.earl.
>
> The difficult part is writing schematron-earl.xslt. As far as I know there
> are XSLTs for HTML (schematron-report.xsl), XML (schematron-xml.xsl) and
> plain text (schematron-basic.xsl).
>
> There is already a small Schematron example for checking against WCAG 1.0
> referenced at the bottom of
> http://xml.ascc.net/schematron/1.5/message1-5/schematron-message.html.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christophe
>
> ---previous message---
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
>
>
>>> Hi Vicente,
>>>
>>> At 21:25 30/04/2006, Vicente Luque Centeno wrote:
>>> <quote>
>>> I have recently developed a Web Accessibility evaluator in a single XSLT
>>> file (namely WAEX). You can find it at http://www.it.uc3m.es/vlc/waex.html
>>> (...)
>>> I would be happy that someone could collaborate by modifying this (rather
>>> simple but complete) XSLT file to generate EARL reports as well. The XSLT
>>> file is at http://www.it.uc3m.es/vlc/wcag.xsl
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Since you want different output formats but you probably don't want to
>>> maintain different versions of the XSLT file, I wonder if it wouldn't be
>>> possible to make this just a little bit more "abstract" by turning the
>>> XSLT into a Schematron [1] schema, so that you have various output formats
>>> by default. If someone would write a schematron-earl.xslt, this xslt would
>>> be useful beyond accessibility checking. (I'm not volunteering, though.)
>>> (...)
>>
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