- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:59:14 +0200
- To: "Nils Ulltveit-Moe" <nils@u-moe.no>, public-wai-ert@w3.org, wp3_eiao@osys.grm.hia.no, wp5_eiao@osys.grm.hia.no
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:08:32 +0200, Nils Ulltveit-Moe <nils@u-moe.no>
wrote:
> I promised myself to close the discussion on the conficence value last
> week. However during the workshop we have arranged at Agder University
> College last week on metamodel based accessibility testing, the issue
> about the confidence value came up again.
>
> The conclusion so far, is also that we do indeed need to be able to
> represent the confidence value of the test result.
Hi all,
well, I am glad the discussion has run on a bit. I have been convinced by
it that there really is a good reason for having confidence, although I
think it should be optional. I also think that it is important that
confidence values state what ther scale is themselves.
This is the basis of my interoperability concern, and the reason I
wondered if we wanted it at all. Whatever range of values we pick isn't
nearly as important as the actual process used to assign a confidence
rating to a particular result. So I would like to model the result as a
blank node, and the confidence as a datatype.
So here is an example fragment assuming that the good folk at NILS publish
their own confidence scheme for some tests (because they are proud of
their name :-), and that Chris does for some others:
<earl:Assertion>
<earl:message xml:lang="en">This is a fairly certain result for a
machine that is acutally doing heuristic processing</earl:message>
<earl:result r:parseType="Resource">
<r:type r:resource="http://..earl..#fail" />
<earl:confidence
r:datatype="http://example.org/nils/datatypes/EARLtests">0,84</earl:confidence>
</earl:result>
...
</earl:Assertion>
<earl:Assertion>
<earl:message>Some other tools will have a much simpler range of
possibilities for their confidence</earl:message>
<earl:result r:parseType="Resource">
<r:type r:resource="http://..earl..#pass" />
<earl:confidence
r:datatype="http://example.org/chris/datatypes/HML">Medium</earl:confidence>
</earl:result>
...
</earl:Assertion>
<earl:Assertion>
<earl:message xml:lang="en">Some tools, or people, are supremely
confident. And sometimes they are also correct :-)</earl:message>
<earl:result r:type r:resource="http://..earl..#pass" />
</earl:Assertion>
<earl:Assertion>
<earl:message xml:lang="en">Having a fine-grained scheme for some
particular system allows you to balance probabilities in multiple results.
There are plenty of possibilities for cases where the confidence of a
result either way is quite low but measurably different</earl:message>
<earl:result r:parseType="Resource">
<r:type r:resource="http://..earl..#fail" />
<earl:confidence
r:datatype="http://example.org/nils/datatypes/EARLtests">0,27</earl:confidence>
</earl:result>
<earl:result r:parseType="Resource">
<r:type r:resource="http://..earl..#pass" />
<earl:confidence
r:datatype="http://example.org/nils/datatypes/EARLtests">0,31</earl:confidence>
</earl:result>
</earl:Assertion>
I guess one of the things that we should assume is that any result without
a confidence rating claims a confidence of 100% (which means you have to
decide how you rate the assessor).
What do people think?
cheers
Chaals
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