Re: agenda+ Re: Draft material for usability testing

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> On 7 Sep 2017, at 17:55, Shawn Henry wrote:


On 9/6/2017 9:46 AM, Eric Eggert wrote:
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>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 16:35, Shawn Henry wrote:
>>
>> Additional question for Charlotte: What level of info for the UT? e.g.,
>>> on specific resources? or only on nav, general design, type stuff?
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2017 3:07 PM, Shawn Henry wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Charlotte and all,
>>>>
>>>> We have a few questions and issues related to draft material for
>>>> usability testing (UT). We plan to have the navigation and resource titles
>>>> done, but most of the revised content probably will not be finalized and
>>>> approved by EOWG before UT. I'm assuming that the site for usability
>>>> testing will not be public, and so we don't need to be as concerned with
>>>> unapproved material being included. I wanted to confirm that, and also make
>>>> sure we cover related issues.
>>>>
>>>> Is it correct that the only people who will see the content used in UT
>>>> are the test participants and the people who prepare and participate in the
>>>> test (e.g., observers)?
>>>>
>>>> We will want to mark unapproved content as draft, yet in a way that
>>>> won't interfere with UT. If it was to be public, we would have big notice
>>>> at the top. I think we don't want that. I think clear indication in the
>>>> document footer area is enough. Let us know if you have any thoughts on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Brent helped me realize the site for UT will probably have to be public
>>> for UT. Right now I'm thinking that before and after the UT we'll have big
>>> banner at top saying draft - and move that to the bottom during UT. Can we
>>> check in on that briefly in today's meeting?
>>>
>>
>> I will make sure that there will be a way to display the website without
>> a banner for the UT.
>>
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> In yesterday's meeting, Charlotte suggested password protect.
>
> My guess is that's hard to do.
>
> Happy to leave it up to you, Eric.
>

I can upload a version to w3.org and hide it behind a W3C login so you can
> only see it with a W3C account. The other idea is to provide the page in a
> private GitHub repository and remove the banners from there so you’d need
> to know the URL to find it (of course locking out search engines).​
>

​Eric, I don't think the testers will have W3C accounts.​



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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Eric Eggert <ee@w3.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 7 Sep 2017, at 17:55, Shawn Henry wrote:
>
> On 9/6/2017 9:46 AM, Eric Eggert wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Shawn,
>>>
>>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 16:35, Shawn Henry wrote:
>>>
>>> Additional question for Charlotte: What level of info for the UT? e.g.,
>>>> on specific resources? or only on nav, general design, type stuff?
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2017 3:07 PM, Shawn Henry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Charlotte and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a few questions and issues related to draft material for
>>>>> usability testing (UT). We plan to have the navigation and resource titles
>>>>> done, but most of the revised content probably will not be finalized and
>>>>> approved by EOWG before UT. I'm assuming that the site for usability
>>>>> testing will not be public, and so we don't need to be as concerned with
>>>>> unapproved material being included. I wanted to confirm that, and also make
>>>>> sure we cover related issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it correct that the only people who will see the content used in UT
>>>>> are the test participants and the people who prepare and participate in the
>>>>> test (e.g., observers)?
>>>>>
>>>>> We will want to mark unapproved content as draft, yet in a way that
>>>>> won't interfere with UT. If it was to be public, we would have big notice
>>>>> at the top. I think we don't want that. I think clear indication in the
>>>>> document footer area is enough. Let us know if you have any thoughts on
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brent helped me realize the site for UT will probably have to be public
>>>> for UT. Right now I'm thinking that before and after the UT we'll have big
>>>> banner at top saying draft - and move that to the bottom during UT. Can we
>>>> check in on that briefly in today's meeting?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will make sure that there will be a way to display the website without
>>> a banner for the UT.
>>>
>>
>> In yesterday's meeting, Charlotte suggested password protect.
>>
>> My guess is that's hard to do.
>>
>> Happy to leave it up to you, Eric.
>>
>
> I can upload a version to w3.org and hide it behind a W3C login so you
> can only see it with a W3C account. The other idea is to provide the page
> in a private GitHub repository and remove the banners from there so you’d
> need to know the URL to find it (of course locking out search engines).
>
> Both is equally complicated but not a huge burden.
>
> Eric
>
>
>> ~Shawn
>>
>>
>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ~Shawn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What about dates for content changes? We see:
>>>>>      * Final prototype or interface due: 18 September
>>>>>      * Test-the-test: 28 September
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope to have the navigation and resource titles set for UT by 18
>>>>> Sept.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it OK to make content changes after 18 Sept as long as we tell you
>>>>> beforehand that they are planned, and then when we make the changes? Is it
>>>>> correct that we shouldn't make any changes after, say, 26 Sept?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> ~Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Eric Eggert
>>> Web Accessibility Specialist
>>> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
>
> Eric Eggert
> Web Accessibility Specialist
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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