Re: Draft issue on saving transcripts

Good point Kim!

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 1:06 PM Kim Patch <kim@scriven.com> wrote:

> A couple of thoughts on auto transcriptions.
> I think they are useful, used wisely.
> There will be mistakes, and consequential mistakes like can for can't are
> still all too common (I've done a lot of testing over the past decade)
> I think the best use is to make it available during the call to help
> scribing so the scribe can look back or even cut-and-paste chunks.
> It is tedious to clean up a transcription.
> If a transcription is saved the audio should be saved with it.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim
>
> On 2/20/2023 12:53 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea wrote:
>
> +1 it is a good idea. And help many users
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 12:22 PM Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi - we chatted about this a bit during the WAI CC call today. I'll give
>> a couple days for people to review on list, and will file the issue
>> Wednesday if there are no objections. Michael
>> On 2023-02-20 9:25 a.m., Michael Cooper wrote:
>>
>> Following up on the discussion of saving transcriptions:
>> https://www.w3.org/2023/02/13-waicc-minutes#t04
>>
>> I found the content in the Guide that we would ultimately want updated:
>> https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/transcripts.html. It mentions some
>> reasons not to allow saving that we would need to address. For now, this
>> draft issue is meant to open discussion without having the full solution.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> @a11ydoer raised a question that we discussed in the WAI coordination
>> call, about the meeting transcript saving policy. The Guide
>> <https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/transcripts.html> instructs staff to
>> disallow transcript saving, for important reasons. But we now have some
>> experience with the feature, and in most of my groups it has become routine
>> to turn on auto-transcription as an accessibility and language support.
>> While transcripts have errors, they are generally understandable. Groups
>> have begun to wonder if scribing should be a priority, especially given the
>> participation cost to the scribe in a given meeting. Therefore, we would
>> like to explore incorporating current experience into the transcript saving
>> policy.
>>
>> I believe many of the concerns we have with saving transcripts could be
>> addressed with policy and guidance. I believe it is still inappropriate to
>> use automated transcripts as a formal meeting record, but I think it is
>> appropriate to allow them to supplement the official record.
>>
>> There are also social concerns about the use of saved transcripts. While
>> we can't know what would happen in an untried experiment, our social
>> experience with live captioning has been encouraging. People are used to
>> it, and I think the step to saving transcripts is less of a leap than it
>> was.
>>
>> We look forward to discussing an appropriate way to make use of this new
>> technology.
>>
>>
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