Re: [WAI CC] WAI Coordination Call, Agenda, June 1, 2022, 18:00 UTC (2pm Boston)

Hi Rain,

Thanks for putting these all in one neat package! And thanks for 
producing them in the first place.

A couple of thoughts – thinking especially about the high level list:

 From an efficiency standpoint, Github, ongoing email threads, and 
questions out of context require a lot of extra time for many of us. 
Sometimes the effect is secondary – someone who's organizing information 
for others ends up spending a lot of extra time either pulling these 
types of not-very-well organized materials together for a meeting or 
responding to a request from an individual who can't find something and 
assumes it'd be easier for someone else to find it instead. The 
difficult discoverability also means lots just gets lost.

I think it'd be a big efficiency boost to generally pay attention to 
organization, tapping what COGA has produced as 
Canary-in-the-coal-mine-type information that can push us in a useful 
direction. If we work to make things easier for COGA by addressing the 
issues they are pointing out so clearly I think it'll save a lot of time 
and reduce frustration for many others as well.

Cheers,
Kim

On 6/1/2022 1:45 PM, Rain Michaels wrote:
> Hello Judy and WAI colleagues,
>
> Here are the resources that Judy had asked me to send to the group 
> that the COGA TF prepared to try to help other groups engage more 
> successfully with COGA:
>
>   * TPAC 2021
>       o How to work with COGA archive
>         <https://www.w3.org/2021/10/TPAC/breakouts.html#cogainclusion-2>
>       o How to work with COGA meeting minutes
>         <https://www.w3.org/2021/10/21-cogainclusion-minutes.html>
>       o How to work with COGA recording
>         <https://watch.videodelivery.net/4212af346ecdba06922bb9442bd94996>
>       o How to work with COGA slides
>         <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2021Oct/att-0004/How_to_work_with_COGA_Presentation_TPAC2021.pdf>
>   * Ongoing working documents that we have:
>       o A helpful list of the things Jennie put together
>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sg9Q0QbQHmRhoqA5UfNq908ffSpeV7vEaRUqiw9cTQI/edit#heading=h.1a41fusxfhgi>
>         to present ahead of time for TPAC, which is another way of
>         looking at the barriers and ways to remove the barriers
>       o Inclusive working groups (working draft)
>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbjN7fLaucSzVfTqQdoCHoX3GFEoyHz2iiz3ap9Yd6k/edit#heading=h.gsausbyr9qj2>
>
> At a very high level, some of the practices that create significant 
> barriers to successful collaboration include:
>
>   * Github
>   * Ongoing email threads
>   * Questions out of context
>
> Some of our members are able to give their best through real-time 
> conference call conversations. Some of us cannot get through all of 
> our email and appreciate nudges, but only when those nudges contain 
> all of the context in them, as well.
>
> We realize that our needs are sometimes conflicting with the needs of 
> others with whom we are trying to collaborate, and hope that this is 
> an opportunity for us to find new creative approaches to support and 
> include everyone, in both directions.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Rain
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:37 PM Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> wrote:
>
>     Dear All:
>
>     Reminder of our meeting below:
>
>     *CALL TIME: Wednesday, June 1, 2:00-3:00pm EDT, 18:00 UTC*
>     <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20210421T14&p1=43&ah=1>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20220601T14&p1=43&ah=1
>     <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20220601T14&p1=43&ah=1>
>
>     *Zoom Videoconferencing details: *
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>
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>
>     Previous min https://www.w3.org/2022/05/18-waicc-minutes.html
>     And before that (correcting link sent previously):
>     https://www.w3.org/2022/05/04-waicc-minutes.html
>
>     **
>
>     AGENDA:
>
>     agenda+ Scribe, agenda additions, present+
>
>     agenda+ Updates: publication plans, announcements
>     https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
>
>     agenda+ Checking: New work under development? Cross-WAI review
>     requests?
>
>     agenda+ Recommended materials from TPAC sessions on working with
>     COGA (note re-framing/generalizing topic)
>
>     agenda+ FYI WCAG2ICT
>
>     agenda+ Reminder can give periodic CEPC reminders
>
>     agenda+ Updates & q&a on legal entity transition, as needed
>
>     Talk with you soon.
>
>     Best,
>
>     - Judy
>
>     -- 
>     Judy Brewer
>     Director, Web Accessibility Initiative
>     at the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>     32 Vassar St. Room 385, MIT/CSAIL
>     Cambridge MA 02139 USA
>     www.w3.org/WAI/  <http://www.w3.org/WAI/>
>
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