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Re: WAI Coordination Call, 9 May 2018: Minutes

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 15:30:47 -0400
To: public-wai-cc@w3.org
Message-ID: <20180509193047.GF15806@rednote.net>
Minutes from the WAI CC call of 9 May are provided below as text. They're also
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                                                                                   - DRAFT -

                                                                     WAI Coordination Call Teleconference

09 May 2018


          Joanmarie_Diggs, Judy, Katie, Janina, MichaelC, tzviya, George, Jeanne, Kim





     * Topics
         1. WCAG 2.1, will be looking for testimonials
         2. EPub/Math checks
         3. Resuming accessible MathML discussion, issue now at <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/43#issuecomment-387617250>
     * Summary of Action Items
     * Summary of Resolutions

   <Judy> scribe: Janina

   jb: Next mtg will be 23 May

WCAG 2.1, will be looking for testimonials

   jb: Now in PR! Yeah!
   ... Reminder to get AC reviews logged
   ... Will soon be issuing request for testimonials, primarily from member orgs
   ... Particularly if you can saw that your org will be implementing it!

EPub/Math checks

   jb: George Kerscher has circulated re math support in epub

   gk: It's a draft, will post once out of draft--should be soon
   ... Created in epub, xhtml under the hood
   ... Performs several tests
   ... Intented to provide visually attractive presentation
   ... javascript used to expose MathML to AT, where the js is supported
   ... If the js doesn't run, there's alt-text
   ... Next series of tests are just image and alt text to determine whether people can read word by word, char by char
   ... Will add one more with just MathML
   ... Do want to put SVG in as well
   ... Looking for feedback from publishing to see whether this is viable approach

   jb: Any surprises?

   gk: Just on getting consensus on the js to be used--more eomplicated than expected
   ... Do think people could use code as is, pasting their own images, etc.

   jb: Did need to change testable statements?

   gk: Have existing test statements which are human response oriented

   ts: Developed by DAISY? For users? Others?

   gk: Developed via Diagram Center and DAISY
   ... Intended to propose solutions for publishers--if it works
   ... Hope it could point to a best practices
   ... We tried to pay particular attention to good visual presentation, so should not impact visual consumption

Resuming accessible MathML discussion, issue now at <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/43#issuecomment-387617250>

   jb: Noting the link, not previously provided
   ... Looking for feedback
   ... Looking for clearer notion of how to move forward
   ... Anything to add? Or, do are we maybe OK if George's work bears out.

   gk: I know many say they want to use latec or ASCII math
   ... We don't have those at this time--could be more comprehensive
   ... But if what we did works, it will be interesting to hear whether it's sufficient
   ... So is it wide review that's needed? Or a workshop?

   ts: Do believe it has potential to be a solution. Have been working with Canadian library group with similar concerns
   ... Probably good as far as it goes, but there's likely more that could be done, for really complex expressions

   jb: What an AAM might cover?

   jd: Other AAMs show how to map on multiple platforms
   ... So would show how to expose each MathML element on each specific platform

   jb: Do we need more from MathML

   jd: TBD. Some browsers re intro'ing

   jb: When back in FF?

   jd: Been there for years

   jb: Recall Chrome took it out

   jd: at the time of the fork
   ... Removed it from their fork of Webkit
   ... Do we know about Microsoft?
   ... No knowledge of plan to do it

   gk: Diagram talked with Microsoft about what could be done to expose what we've done
   ... Not recalling the specifics now

   jb: Curious what happens with math on mobile platforms?
   ... Any support?

   <AWK_> +AWK

   gk: We hope to test on mobile as well
   ... We understand some support for MathML in Ibooks, but we don't know how effectual
   ... Understand recent implementations allow review, cut , paste of alt text--which is new
   ... If we could cut and paste MathML into Benetech's product, for instance ...
   ... Allows transforms to what you might want

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]

Present: Joanmarie_Diggs Judy Katie Janina MichaelC tzviya George Jeanne Kim
Found Scribe: Janina


Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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