RE: WAI-AGE task force teleconf - 6 May

 Hello Andrew and Shadi,

Would it be possible to put "integrated WAI-AGE and WCAG 2.0 improvements" into some written form, e.g. to the changelog?

I have one idea but don't know whether it is too much to ask for. Is it possible to supply "before" and "after" pages with the audio files of screen reader output? This would be a good illustration of visually same web pages being presented in a different way to a screen reader user. 

This is my quick feedback on "Involving the users"

* I would put the last sentence of the introduction to the top

* Introduction is a bit too long to my taste. Some pieces could be moved to the document itself.

* IMO the document does not give a clear understanding of who exactly should be involving users with disabilities. In a bigger company web designer, user experience expert and accessibility expert might be different people sitting in different parts of the organization. In a smaller company these roles might be combined and/or people physically sit in the same room. Also this subject brings two domains of accessibility and user experience/usability closer together. The message that this document should deliver and explain is: if you DO NOT involve users in any parts of your design you should start doing it and invite various age and health groups to participate; if you already DO invite users as part of your design/test process DO NOT FORGET to invite various age and health groups to participate. And then the document explains when and how to involve users.

Br, Anna



-----Original Message-----
From: public-wai-age-request@w3.org [mailto:public-wai-age-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of ext Andrew Arch
Sent: 04 May, 2009 19:05
To: public-wai-age@w3.org
Subject: WAI-AGE task force teleconf - 6 May

Dear Task Force,

As per schedule, we are meeting this Wednesday (6 May) at the usual
time:
   http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wai-age/teleconf.html#meetings
Teleconference Bridge:
   +33.4.89.06.34.99 / +44.117.370.6152 / +1.617.761.6200 Teleconference code: 9243# (WAGE#)
IRC: Channel - #waiage; server - irc.w3.org; port - 6665
Scribe: Helle (Suzette)
   http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wai-age/teleconf.html#scribes

*Agenda:*

1. *Welcome*

2. *Before and After Demonstration*
The updated version of the Draft BAD pages is currently being installed and Shadi will provide the link shortly along with some points to focus our discussion. Shadi will walk us through the integrated WAI-AGE and WCAG 2.0 improvements. The requirements for the update are at:
   http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/changelog

3. *Involving Users*
This is a new document we will work on next to update:
- change log: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-impl-users.html
- original document: http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/users.html
The plan is to expand this document to encourage the involvement of users, including older users, early in the design and development process and throughout  - not just during Accessibility Evaluation which often occurs after a site is released.
Questions:
- Is the 'Purpose, Goals, Objectives' clear? Defined enough? Too broad?
- Is the 'Audience' focused correctly?
- How long should the document be?
What are the obvious improvements we can make to the existing document?

4. *Business Case*
Just a reminder that this is open for final review and comment through EOWG - WAI-AGE task force members are encouraged to respond:
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2009AprJun/0060.html

Regards, Andrew
--
Andrew Arch
Web Accessibility and Ageing Specialist
http://www.w3.org/People/Andrew/
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WAI-AGE/

Received on Tuesday, 5 May 2009 09:47:32 UTC